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I've been going through [[:Category:Templates|categorizing]] and [[Project:Templates|describing]] our various templates (with mixed results). Since you created [[:Category:Utility templates]], I guess I should ask you what your definition of a "utility template" is. Based on the single template that was in the category at the time I came across it ([[Template:If]]), I guessed it was for templates that are primarily for use in ''other'' templates, to make their "code" simpler (like subroutines in computer programming). But now I don't know what to do with templates like [[Template:Quote-source]] and [[Template:Comment-box1]]. Do you think either of those should be called "Utility templates" and the definition expanded? - [[User:Dcljr|dcljr]] 15:53, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
 
I've been going through [[:Category:Templates|categorizing]] and [[Project:Templates|describing]] our various templates (with mixed results). Since you created [[:Category:Utility templates]], I guess I should ask you what your definition of a "utility template" is. Based on the single template that was in the category at the time I came across it ([[Template:If]]), I guessed it was for templates that are primarily for use in ''other'' templates, to make their "code" simpler (like subroutines in computer programming). But now I don't know what to do with templates like [[Template:Quote-source]] and [[Template:Comment-box1]]. Do you think either of those should be called "Utility templates" and the definition expanded? - [[User:Dcljr|dcljr]] 15:53, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
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: I'm not [[User:Sans Deity]], but I think you're right, that utility templates are ones used for building or simplifying other templates; infrastructure, not content.
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: Since [[Template:Quote-source]] and [[Template:Comment-box1]] are directly used in various pages, I wouldn't call them utility templates. I think if there were a template that said, "This <topic>-related article is a stub", that could be included in other templates that specified a topic, then that generic template would be a utility template. But that's just my opinion. --[[User:Arensb|Arensb]] 16:09, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

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Image/text alignment problem

As noted in the edit summary, I took the liberty of inserting a newline in your user page to fix an image/text alignment problem. When a right-aligned [[Image]] link is followed on the same line by text, some browsers (I.E. 5.0, at least) align the text to the right, too. Besides looking wrong, this makes the text easy to miss, especially when it's at the very top of the page. I think I've seen this problem in some articles, as well. Something to keep in mind.... - dcljr 12:24, 13 February 2007 (CST)

Cite.php for ref's

In Wikipedia and other Wikimedia wikis, the Cite.php extension allows for easy creation and maintenance of footnotes in articles using <ref></ref> and <reference/> tags. I've encountered a few cases were this would be really helpful to have here. According to documentation at the first link above, the extension requires at least MediaWiki 1.6x, so it should work for us. I would suggest we upgrade to a newer MediaWiki version anyway, but moving to 1.7x would also require an upgrade to PhP 5. Maybe a task for this summer? <g> - dcljr 19:59, 30 March 2007 (CDT)

I'd like to second this.
Also, I'm a Unix sysadmin in Real Life™. If I can help, let me know.
--Arensb 21:17, 30 March 2007 (CDT)

Sandbox

I noticed someone created Project:Sandbox back in Feb. Since we probably should have such a page, I've gone ahead and created a template-header for it, Template:Sandbox header, explaining what the Sandbox is for, along with a "testing" template called Template:Sandbox (not "Template:Testing" or similar) for use on the Sandbox page to test template behavior. Then, of course, the template itself needed a template-header, Template:Sandbox template header, to explain it.... Anyway, I hope everything is basically self-explanatory on the pages Project:Sandbox and Template:Sandbox. Just figured I'd give you a heads-up so you can "watch" the two "header" templates, if you want. (I would suggest protecting them, but that probably would be overkill. Sufficient to "watch" them for now.) - dcljr 17:52, 10 April 2007 (CDT)

Utility templates?

I've been going through categorizing and describing our various templates (with mixed results). Since you created Category:Utility templates, I guess I should ask you what your definition of a "utility template" is. Based on the single template that was in the category at the time I came across it (Template:If), I guessed it was for templates that are primarily for use in other templates, to make their "code" simpler (like subroutines in computer programming). But now I don't know what to do with templates like Template:Quote-source and Template:Comment-box1. Do you think either of those should be called "Utility templates" and the definition expanded? - dcljr 15:53, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

I'm not User:Sans Deity, but I think you're right, that utility templates are ones used for building or simplifying other templates; infrastructure, not content.
Since Template:Quote-source and Template:Comment-box1 are directly used in various pages, I wouldn't call them utility templates. I think if there were a template that said, "This <topic>-related article is a stub", that could be included in other templates that specified a topic, then that generic template would be a utility template. But that's just my opinion. --Arensb 16:09, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
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