User talk:Arensb

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By the way, have I met you? I'm assuming you're a Non-Prophets listener, do you show up in the chat room? Great job on your contributions so far, by the way. -- Kazim 11:30, 18 July 2006 (MST)

I doubt it. I've never been to Austin (though if I'm ever there, I'd love to stop by Threadgill's and meet y'all). I ran across the Non-Prophets and Atheist Experience podcasts by chance while looking for something to listen to while doing yard work.
And no, I haven't contributed to the chat room. They tend to turn into major time sinks, unfortunately. --Arensb 11:41, 18 July 2006 (MST)


Famous atheists link fix

Thanks for catching the redlink I caused on the Main Page when I deleted the "Famous atheists" category. I recategorized the relevant articles but forgot to check "What links here". (I didn't think there was a good reason to have a separate category for "famous" atheists since if an atheist isn't famous in some sense, they really wouldn't warrant an article here.) - dcljr 00:00, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Nae problem. I figured that was what had happened. --Arensb 08:29, 27 March 2007 (CDT)

Status and admin stuff

I've upgraded your permissions to sysop and bureaucrat. It seemed reasonable, but let me know if there's a problem with that. Also - drop me an e-mail when you canSans Deity 13:03, 6 April 2007 (CDT)


Welcome to The Inner Circle. <g> I see Matt has made you a sysop. I've added an entry to Iron Chariots Wiki:Administrators for you. You can describe yourself briefly there, if you wish. - dcljr 17:33, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

One syllable?

Regarding the pronunciation of your name, how do you make it one syllable? I would have thought "Eh-rensb" (hence, two syllables). What is the appropriate vowel sound? So it rhymes with "farms" or "cairns"? - dcljr 17:44, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

Gah. You're right. (Counting syllables is easy in Russian and French; it's much harder in English.)
As for the initial A, the easy answer is that I don't really care as long as you get all the letters in the right order. The fuller answer is that in English I pronounce it as in "air" or "cairns", and in other languages I pronounce it as in "father".
Hopefully this brings some much-needed confusion to this issue. --Arensb 23:06, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

Category sortkey question

You asked about my categorization of Religion using the "*" sortkey. It is customary on Wikipedia to force articles having the same name as a category to be listed first among articles in that category. The "*" sortkey does this (as does a sortkey starting with a space, which some people prefer). I've just carried that convention over to this wiki. We don't have to do it that way, if you want to lobby for a different style. - dcljr 17:40, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

Thanks. I suspected as much, but wanted to check. I'm not as well-versed in either MediaWiki or Wikipedia lore as I'd like to be. --Arensb 17:52, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

More categorization issues

I don't agree with your decision to remove Category:People from articles already in one of its subcats, such as Category:Atheists. I know there is a big push on Wikipedia to avoid categorization into "adjacent" categories (i.e., a category and its immediate parent), but if a reader doesn't already know whether a given person is an atheist, they will have a harder time finding the article for that person using our category structure. Besides, keeping atheists separate from everyone else just don't feel right.... OTOH, thanks for adding the last-name sortkeys. BTW, did you notice my other comment above? You haven't edited Project:Administrators, so I wasn't sure. - dcljr 14:46, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

I figured the whole reason for having categories within categories was to put articles in the most specific categories. You're right that there's a certain logic in putting articles in both a generic and a specific category, but there ought to be some guidelines as to how to do it: Douglas Adams goes in Category:Atheists because he's an atheist, and you could argue that he goes in Category:People because he's a celebrity. But what about Richard Dawkins, who is well-known for being an atheist?
I suppose the guiding principle should be to put articles in those categories where they'll do the most good, but I don't know how to turn that into a set of editorial do's and don'ts.
Oh, and I haven't updated my line in Project:Administrators because I haven't come up with a pithy one-liner with which to summarize the totality of my life and relevant experience.
--Arensb 17:01, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

We can discuss this at Project talk:Categorization if you think other people should weigh in on this issue. (Which reminds me... it's still hard to get the attention of a lot of editors at once, since the wiki is relatively low-traffic, and discussion of the wiki as a whole has been going on mostly off-wiki, in the forum(s). In particular, see this post of mine.) - dcljr 14:59, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

One of these days, I should probably sign up for the forum. --Arensb 17:01, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

What is you policy about imports

Unable to spell "your". Ten points from Gryffindor. --Arensb 10:27, 9 February 2009 (CST)

The Wikipedia article on Human sacrifice was referenced.Proxima Centauri 06:44, 9 February 2009 (CST)

I don't know that Iron Chariots has a formal policy on this sort of thing, but if there were, I'd recommend that it be against importing articles wholesale from other sites, particularly Wikipedia:

  1. There's already a Template:Wikipedia that can be used to point the reader there.
  2. Any imported articles will quickly become out of date as articles on Wikipedia are updated and their local copies aren't.
  3. As you may have noticed, pages don't necessarily import cleanly: the text you imported was chock full of dead links, with templates and categories that don't exist here and likely never will.
  4. Since this is a specialized wiki and not a general reference work, it's better to concentrate on the atheism aspect of topics covered here.

--Arensb 10:27, 9 February 2009 (CST)

See Iron Chariots Wiki:Editing guidelines#General guidelines for our "policy" about copying Wikipedia articles over to this wiki. - dcljr 04:57, 26 March 2009 (CDT)

Arensb, there seems to be issues that organizers of this site have not cleared out yet. Arguments, and syllogisms particularly, are not owned by their authors; however, the articles explaining the arguments are rightly owned. It is not plagiarism if one imports a syllogism or formal argument from another site.--wissam hemadeh 10:10, 24 June 2010 (CDT)

Wiki's recent changes log...

The wiki's clock seems to be off by more than a week.... The history pages are showing the wrong dates. Jwissick 00:01, 7 April 2010 (CDT)

In fact if you check the history of this page, you will see that this comment was left on March 25, even though today is April 6th. Jwissick 00:02, 7 April 2010 (CDT)


Blocking spambots is usually a waste of time, they create new accounts easily and rarely or never come twice. Blocking human spammers can work, depends if they have a static or dynamic IP adress. The best protection against spambots is a CAPTCHA, Proxima Centauri 08:52, 27 October 2011 (CDT)

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