Talk:Jesus died for your sins
I'm not sure that all christians believe that jesus is god. I think that some view the 3 in the trinity to be parts of the same being, but others view the 3 as distinct beings. I'm not really sure about that, so I didn't want to edit the page. But the part about him going to heaven to be with god, his father, (who is also himself) only appies to the belief of some christians, not all (if I'm right). So maybe there should be something there that specifies that the part of this argument that points out that jesus is god only applies to the christians who believe jesus and god are the same?
- In general, we don't mean to imply that every usage of "Christians" necessarily means "all Christians". It's worth making the points you mentioned, though perhaps not in this article. This entry addresses a particular claim "Jesus died for your sins" and only addresses the question of divinity as one possible apologetic. For doctrinal assertions like this, we try to list a variety of counter-apologetics. Not all of them will be relevant to all interpretations or theologies, but they should all be relevant to some view. The issue of Jesus' divinity is one that should be addressed (it's worth noting that not all people who identify as Christians accept the notion of the trinity or the idea that Jesus was divine) - I'm just not sure that it's relevant to this point. Feel free to add it here (or in a more relevant article), someone can always go back and edit for clarity or relevance later. :) Sans Deity 11:59, 7 March 2007 (CST)
Thanks for the clarification. I won't edit the page, though. Also, I'm sort of intimidated by the prospect of writing an article that people will be relying on for accurate, thorough information, so I might just stick to correcting spelling and grammatical errors that I see. It's a small job, but it's what I do best. I'm considering writing some articles, but it'll take forever to get them right. :)
- Pebbles, I think you should look at the Wikipedia article about being bold, and adopt that strategy. If you make an article that's full of errors, somebody will be along shortly to fix them.
- Also I'd like to point out that on the talk pages, you should make a habit of signing your posts. You can do this by ending the article with four tildes (~) in a row, or if you can't remember this, find the icon on top that looks like a scribbled signature. It's the second from the last button. --Kazim 21:30, 11 March 2007 (CDT)
Say, this entire thing, Christian and Jewish religion together, is dependent on one critical concept' that guilt is a transferable commodity. It is not of course.
This being the case, his dying on the cross accomplishes nothing whatsoever; you're still guilty. the old Hebrew practice with the goat? Same thing. No transfer, guilt remains.
One of the critical foundation stones of the internal logic of both faiths is hopelessly flawed. -Deliberatus Freeman
What do you, as the readers, think of this argument: There were christians centuries ago that believed that Christ did not die, namely the docetists. Both sects of christianity use faith to justify their position, so why should anyone, as outsiders to the faith, accept that christ even died? - Daemonowner