Talk:Fundamentalism

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From section Fundamentalism and morality:

Christian fundamentalists are more effective at driving sin underground than preventing it.
States that banned gay marriage had 11 percent more porn subscribers. The level of agreement in a state with the statement that ::"Even today miracles are performed by the power of God" predicted higher pornography consumption. States claiming to have old-fashioned values about family and marriage purchased substantially more adult-content subscriptions.
Why is this? Possible reasons could be that Internet pornography is safe, users can take care that they will not be found out. When someone is sitting by a computer Internet pornography is never more than two or three clicks away. The more sexual repression there is in a state or a community the more people are tempted or driven to find whatever outlet they can.

Just what the hell are we talking about? "Sin," "temptation," "old fashioned values"?? I think we need to tighten up on the language. Just what is being shown through pornography use? When fundamentalists dream of "old-fashioned values," exactly what do they mean, and how is pornography contrary?

The statement that, "The more sexual repression there is... the more people are tempted..." is completely unsupported by the information provided. The implication is that some portion of sin switches to other outlets, but this concludes that there is a greater total amount of "temptation" (equivalent to sin??).

However, there is no data on the total amount of "sin", only a snapshot of "sin driven underground", so how can we make a statement about the overall effectiveness of Christian fundamentalists? I have been unable to find any data to support higher religiosity resulting in greater infidelity in marriage, greater or decreased overall sexual activity, change in divorce rates, or even a DIRECT correlation with use of pornography. Even if the data is out there (and I'd like to see it, if it is), it would be impossible to demonstrate causality. Is it the religion of the individual, the religion of neighboring "fundamentalists," a rural lifestyle (making it more difficult to find some strange), or who knows what...?

Also, deleted the statement that "Weak minded people have trouble resisting temptation." Unless "weak minded" is defined as "having difficulty with resisting temptation," then it is vague, there is no support for the statement, and it's irrelevant. If that is how it's defined, then it's circular. John Rogers 08:10, 22 November 2013 (CST)

Also, the entire article is written in first person, and has some of the same issues of being vague. It's a vague topic, but it needs to be tightened up a bit. John Rogers 08:10, 22 November 2013 (CST)

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