Talk:Fine-tuning argument

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Anthropic Principle Merge

This content needs to be merged/added to the existing article: Anthropic principle -- Sans Deity 15:03, 11 October 2006 (CDT)

I just now noticed this, and second your comment. Should the official article be under AP, or FTA? --Kazim 17:15, 18 June 2008 (CDT)
I think calling it the "Fine-tuning argument" better describes what it's about. Plus the AP is really just a statement that supports the FTA - the AP is not an argument in itself --Jaban 12:30, 29 April 2009 (CDT)

Argument History

"The argument of fine tuning is a rather new one. It has only came to be in the last eight to ten years"

Can we change the relative age to a most permanent one like ' It has appeared in the latter part of the 1990s' ? I'd do it myself, but I don't have the information and I am unsure of when the actual appearance of the argument is.Cafeeine 03:20, 29 April 2009 (CDT)

Agree, and I've changed the text to reflect the above.
I suspect, though, that the fine-tuning argument isn't as new as all that (perhaps it's become prominent in the last decade, but has been around much longer). But that's a separate issue. --Arensb 12:21, 29 April 2009 (CDT)
I saw it in print in the mid-80's, it simply didn't have as many "proofs" as it does now. Like most creationist arguments, it has likely existed forever and simply grown to include more recent observations (or perceived to be more recent, even though they were made decades ago and are long outdated).
It may be fair to say it has become more widely known and used since the 90's, but I don't know if there's even any data to support that. How common any argument appears to be likely depends on which flavour of creationist close to the observer are most vocal. --Jaban 12:30, 29 April 2009 (CDT)
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