But that's the Old Testament

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== Counter-apologetics ==
 
== Counter-apologetics ==
This argument is flawed in three respects:
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This argument is flawed in four respects:
  
 
# They continue to quote the Old Testament laws that they do wish to follow.
 
# They continue to quote the Old Testament laws that they do wish to follow.
 
# According to the [[New Testament]] ({{Bible|Matthew 5:19}}) Jesus is quoted as saying "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
 
# According to the [[New Testament]] ({{Bible|Matthew 5:19}}) Jesus is quoted as saying "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
 
# Jesus quoted an Old Testament law in light that it is still of God that Christians wouldn't normally follow, "And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition! For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die,’" (Mark 7:9-10).
 
# Jesus quoted an Old Testament law in light that it is still of God that Christians wouldn't normally follow, "And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition! For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die,’" (Mark 7:9-10).
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#  Finally, decapitate their argument by quoting Jesus with "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets.  I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.  Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place."  (Matthew 5:17)
  
 
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Revision as of 21:57, 15 June 2009

"But that's the Old Testament" is an argument used by Christians when they wish to ignore or glaze over specific Old Testament laws and stories. (This is a form of cherry picking). It is often used when counter-apologetics bring up:

  • The numerous massacres performed by or under the direction of God as written in the old testament.
  • Laws regarding the keeping and treatment of slaves.
  • The requirement of animal sacrifice.
  • The punishment of stoning to death.
  • As well as any individual laws they do not wish to follow e.g.: dietary laws or the prohibition of wearing blended fabrics.

Apologetics

Most Christians will claim that when Jesus died, it nullified the Old Testament laws.

Counter-apologetics

This argument is flawed in four respects:

  1. They continue to quote the Old Testament laws that they do wish to follow.
  2. According to the New Testament (Matthew 5:19 Bible-icon.png) Jesus is quoted as saying "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
  3. Jesus quoted an Old Testament law in light that it is still of God that Christians wouldn't normally follow, "And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition! For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die,’" (Mark 7:9-10).
  4. Finally, decapitate their argument by quoting Jesus with "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17)
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