Argument from locality

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The Argument from Locality states that every [[religion]] that has ever existed or will ever exist had an origin at a specific time and place within a specific culture.  Any [[god]] or gods who truly wanted all humans to follow them logically could have started their religion at the very instant that the human race appeared and would have informed all cultures, not just one, thus giving all humans who would ever be born an equal chance at joining.  The fact that no religion has ever done this shows that no religion is the "correct" one or, at least, that no religion so far has had a "rational" deity.
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The '''argument from locality''' states that every [[religion]] that has ever existed, or will ever exist, had an origin at a specific time and place within a specific [[culture]].  Any [[god]] or gods who truly wanted all humans to follow them logically could have started their [[religion]] at the very instant that the human race appeared and would have informed all cultures, not just one, thus giving all humans who would ever be born an equal chance at joining.  The fact that no religion has ever done this shows that no religion is the "correct" one — or, at least, that no religion so far has had a "rational" [[deity]].
  
==Tenets of the Argument==
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==Tenets of the argument==
  
# Any god who wanted all humans to follow him/her would have revealed themselves to all humans at once, not just a single culture or race.
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# Any god who wanted all humans to follow him/her would have revealed themselves to all humans at once, not just one culture or race at a time.
# If rewards and punishment are given for belief and nonbelief respectively, then any god who waits hundreds or thousands of years before revealing themself to humans is unfair since the people who lived and died before this revelation didn't have a chance.
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# If rewards and punishment are given for [[belief]] and nonbelief respectively, then any god who waits hundreds or thousands of years before revealing itself to humans is unfair, since the people who lived and died before this revelation didn't have a chance to believe.
# If believers are rewarded for their belief then it is unfair for only a specific group of people to receive more evidence than others...
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#* If believers are rewarded for their belief then it is unfair for only a specific group of people to receive more evidence than others.
# ...and vice versa.  If nonbelief is punished then it is also unfair for some people to recieve less evidence than others.
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#* And vice versa: if nonbelief is punished then it is also unfair for some people to receive less evidence than others (or no evidence at all).
 
# Any religion that strongly reflects the beliefs and thoughts of the time in which it was created is not the "true" one.
 
# Any religion that strongly reflects the beliefs and thoughts of the time in which it was created is not the "true" one.
  
==The Argument and Christianity==
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==The argument and Christianity==
  
 
# God revealed himself only to the [[Jew]]s at first.  He was the god of the Jews and no one else.  It wasn't until [[Christianity]] came along that he became the god of the world.
 
# God revealed himself only to the [[Jew]]s at first.  He was the god of the Jews and no one else.  It wasn't until [[Christianity]] came along that he became the god of the world.
# Even though Christianity states that its god will save anyone who follows him, he still waited thousands of years before revealing this plan to humanity.  Plus, the reason he suddenly decided to save all humans instead of just the jews was never explained, thus making it unfair for the millions of non-jews who lived before [[Christ]] who never got a chance to be saved.
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# Even though Christianity states that its god will save anyone who follows him, he still waited thousands of years before revealing this plan to humanity.  Plus, the reason he suddenly decided to save all humans instead of just the Jews was never explained — thus making it unfair for the millions of non-Jews who lived before [[Christ]], who never got a chance to be saved.
# The Christian god rewards believers. Thus, the fact that he only revealed himself to a small group of people in the Middle East 2,000 years ago and left it up to humans to spread his word is very unfair of him.
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# The Christian god rewards believers. Thus, the fact that he only revealed himself to a small group of people in the [[Middle East]] 2,000 years ago and left it up to humans to spread his word is very unfair of him.
# Nonbelief is punished as well, which reinforces the unfairness of only telling a small group of people.
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# Non-belief is punished as well, which reinforces the unfairness of only telling a small group of people.
# The [[Bible]] strongly reflects the beliefs and thoughts of the time, e.g. a flat earth, women being inferior to men, slavery, etc.
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# The [[Bible]] strongly reflects the beliefs and thoughts of the time (e.g. a flat earth, women being inferior to men, [[slavery]], etc.).
  
==See Also==
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==See also==
[[Outsider test]]
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* [[Outsider test]]
  
==References==
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==Reference==
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* [http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/locality.html The Argument from Locality] at Ebonmusings
  
[http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/locality.html The Argument from Locality] at Ebonmusings
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[[Category:Arguments]]
 
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[[Category:Arguments against the existence of God]]
[[Category: Arguments]]
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[[Category:Empirical arguments]]
[[Category: Arguments against the existence of God]]
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[[Category: Empirical arguments]]
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Revision as of 18:31, 25 August 2007

The argument from locality states that every religion that has ever existed, or will ever exist, had an origin at a specific time and place within a specific culture. Any god or gods who truly wanted all humans to follow them logically could have started their religion at the very instant that the human race appeared and would have informed all cultures, not just one, thus giving all humans who would ever be born an equal chance at joining. The fact that no religion has ever done this shows that no religion is the "correct" one — or, at least, that no religion so far has had a "rational" deity.

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Tenets of the argument

  1. Any god who wanted all humans to follow him/her would have revealed themselves to all humans at once, not just one culture or race at a time.
  2. If rewards and punishment are given for belief and nonbelief respectively, then any god who waits hundreds or thousands of years before revealing itself to humans is unfair, since the people who lived and died before this revelation didn't have a chance to believe.
    • If believers are rewarded for their belief then it is unfair for only a specific group of people to receive more evidence than others.
    • And vice versa: if nonbelief is punished then it is also unfair for some people to receive less evidence than others (or no evidence at all).
  3. Any religion that strongly reflects the beliefs and thoughts of the time in which it was created is not the "true" one.

The argument and Christianity

  1. God revealed himself only to the Jews at first. He was the god of the Jews and no one else. It wasn't until Christianity came along that he became the god of the world.
  2. Even though Christianity states that its god will save anyone who follows him, he still waited thousands of years before revealing this plan to humanity. Plus, the reason he suddenly decided to save all humans instead of just the Jews was never explained — thus making it unfair for the millions of non-Jews who lived before Christ, who never got a chance to be saved.
  3. The Christian god rewards believers. Thus, the fact that he only revealed himself to a small group of people in the Middle East 2,000 years ago and left it up to humans to spread his word is very unfair of him.
  4. Non-belief is punished as well, which reinforces the unfairness of only telling a small group of people.
  5. The Bible strongly reflects the beliefs and thoughts of the time (e.g. a flat earth, women being inferior to men, slavery, etc.).

See also

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