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Torah

2009-01-27T03:04:24Z

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#REDIRECT [[Pentateuch]]

Blasphemy

2009-01-22T03:10:37Z

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'''Blasphemy''' is irreverent speech or action regarding something held to be sacred. What is considered blasphemous and how (or if) it should be punished varies widely with different religious traditions.

== What Constitutes blasphemy? ==
Depending on the particular denomination, most religions do not consider phrases such as "for God's sake" or "God damn" blasphemous. Some only consider them blasphemous if they are not meant literally; i.e. "God damn" just as an expression and not God actually damning something. Others see this as taking God's name in vain, and thus blasphemy.

[[Islam]] typically does not consider such expressions to be blasphemous unless they refer to something other than the Islamic god as being divine, i.e. "''Jesus Christ!''" However, speaking negatively of God or prophets is considered blasphemous.

== Old Testament ==
According to [[Leviticus]] 24:16, blasphemers "shall surely be put to death."

== New Testament ==
[[Luke]] 12:10 describes blasphemy as unforgivable. However, interpretations of this passage vary widely as to what constitutes blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and whether it can be forgiven. The Catholic Church, for example, has prayers specifically for forgiveness of blasphemy.

== Islam ==
Islamic tradition holds that blasphemers will not enter heaven unless they repent before they die.

== Blasphemy Laws ==
In the United States, blasphemy is protected speech under the [[First Amendment]]. However, prior to the Fourteenth Amendment, the Bill of Rights was not considered to apply to state governments, and several states had laws against blasphemy on their books. These laws have been ruled unconstitutional.

The United Kingdom had blasphemy laws on the books until 2008. They specifically dealt with blasphemy against [[Christianity]].

In Pakistan, blasphemy is punishable by life imprisonment.

Ad hominem

2009-01-21T17:46:01Z

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'''Ad hominem''' fallacies involve attacking the person rather than the argument, e.g., by casting aspersions on that person's character, or associating the person with a distasteful ideology.

This is a logical fallacy because the fact that a person is repugnant does not mean that they are wrong.

==Examples==
* Elizabeth claims that John murdered Sally
* Elizabeth is a convicted drug user
* Therefore Elizabeth's claims aren't trustworthy

* Bob says that the sky is blue.
* Bob is a communist, and cannot be trusted.
* Therefore, the sky is not blue.

==Non-examples==
Note that not every use of a personal remark qualifies as an ad hominem. Consider the following remarks that one might make towards a [[young earth creationist]]:

* "You'd have to be an idiot to believe the earth is 6000 years old."

In the case of the first sentence, a personal insult was used. However, the reason for the insult was based on the arguments being made. Furthermore, the insult follows from the disagreement, not the other way around. An ad hominem is generally a [[non sequitur]]. The argument technique used is overly emotional and the assertion of idiocy may be wrong, but it is not ad hominem.

Then there is this sort of argument.

* "[[William Dembski]] is a mathematician, not a scientist. Why would we take his disbelief about [[evolution]] seriously?"

This is also a personal remark (about Dembski), yet it is directly relevant to the subject of the argument. Since Dembski is often used as a source of the [[argument from authority]], it is certainly relevant to question his credentials. A person who has not studied science is, indeed, less qualified to act as an authority about evolution.

[[Category:Logical fallacies]]

Blasphemy

2009-01-21T05:08:59Z

Enshoku:

Blasphemy

2009-01-21T05:08:18Z

Enshoku:

{{stub}}
'''Blasphemy''' is irreverent speech or action regarding something held to be sacred. What is considered blasphemous and how (or if) it should be punished varies widely with different religious traditions.

== What Constitutes blasphemy? ==
Depending on the particular denomination, most religions do not consider phrases such as "for God's sake" or "God damn" blasphemous. Some only consider them blasphemous if they are not meant literally; i.e. "God damn" just as an expression and not God actually damning something. Others see this as taking God's name in vain, and thus blasphemy.

[[Islam]] typically does not consider such expressions to be blasphemous unless they refer to something other than the Islamic god as being divine, i.e. "''Jesus Christ!''" However, speaking negatively of God or prophets is considered blasphemous.

== Old Testament ==
According to [[Leviticus]] 24:16, blasphemers "shall surely be put to death."

== New Testament ==
[[Luke]] 12:10 describes blasphemy as unforgivable. However, interpretations of this passage vary widely as to what constitutes blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and whether it can be forgiven. The Catholic Church, for example, has prayers specifically for forgiveness of blasphemy.

== Islam ==
Islamic tradition holds that blasphemers will not enter heaven unless they repent before they die.

== Blasphemy Laws ==
In the United States, blasphemy is protected speech under the [[First Amendment]]. However, prior to the Fourteenth Amendment, the Bill of Rights was not considered to apply to state governments, and several states had laws against blasphemy on their books. These laws have been ruled unconstitutional.

The United Kingdom had blasphemy laws on the books until 2008. They specifically dealt with blasphemy against [[Christianity]].

In Pakistan, blasphemy is punishable by life imprisonment.

Iron Chariots Wiki:Requested pages

2009-01-20T12:55:00Z

Enshoku: /* Religions and religious topics */

Got a page that you would love to see an article about, but you don't have the time or knowledge to write it yourself? Put a request here and somebody may do your work for you!

For those who are editing, don't forget to check the [[Special:Wantedpages|Wanted Pages]] list.

If any of the requests below correspond to existing articles, but those articles are still very short, please remove the entry here and tag the article with an appropriate [[Project:stub template|stub template]]. Stub articles in need of expansion can be found in the [[:Category:Stubs|Stubs]] category.

==People==
: ''See also:'' [[Iron Chariots Wiki:Requested pages/Lists of atheists]]
===Living===
* [[Josh McDowell]]
* [[Roy Moore]]
* [[Ralph Reed]]
* [[James Rutz]] ([[Jim Rutz]] as redirect)
===Dead/historical===
* [[Carl Sagan]]
===Fictional, Biblical, scriptural===
* [[Abraham]]
* [[Muhammad]]
* [[Paul]]
* [[Shiva]]
* [[Thomas]]

==Religions and religious topics==
* [[Blasphemy]]
* [[Calvinism]] ([[Calvinist]] as redirect)
* [[Canon]]
* [[Church]]
* [[Crimen Sollicitationis]] (A document from the Catholic Church that set the global policy for the treatment of allegations of sex crimes)
* [[Cult]]
* [[Doctrine]]
* [[Heresy]], [[heretic]], [[heretical]]
* [[Israel]], [[Israelite]], [[Israelites]]
* [[Pagan]], [[Pagans]], [[Paganism]]
* [[Pantheon]]
* [[Rapture]]
* [[Saint]]
* [[Sermon]]
* [[Trinity]] Explain [[trinitarianism]] and the heretical concepts surrounding it such as [[modulism]] (one god shows self in three ways) and [[tritheism]] (three separate beings)
* [[Worship]]
* [[Zion]], [[Zionism]], [[Zionist]]
===Specific denominations, sects, cults===
* [[Bahá'í faith]]
* [[Jainism]]
* [[Orthodox Judaism]]
* [[Shia Islam]] (see [[Wikipedia:Shia Islam]] for various possible redirects)
* [[Shinto]] ([[Shintoism]] as redirect)
* [[Sunni Islam]] ([[Sunni]] as redirect)

===Religious texts===
* almost all of the individual books of the Bible (see [[Template:Books of the Bible]] for a listing)
* [[Dead Sea scrolls]]
* [[Torah]], [[Tanakh]], [[Talmud]]
===Bible stories, parables, etc.===
* [[Gods in the Old Testament]] — episodes 464, 466, and 483 of ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' could be good starting points

==Supernatural, paranormal, magic, myth==
* [[Astrology]]
* [[Paranormal]]
* [[Witchcraft]], [[witch]]
* [[Ghost]]

==Philosophy, logic, ethics==
* [[Premise]]
* [[Proof]]
* [[Suicide]]

==Politics, society, culture==
* [[Abortion]]
* [[Faith-based initiative]]s
* [[Science fiction]]
===Law===
(Court cases, the state of freedom of religion in various states and countries, etc.)
* [[Torcaso v. Watkins]] -- The Supreme Court case that extended "no religious test" to states.

==Science==
* [[Emotion]]
* [[Human]]
* [[Mind]]
* [[Nature]]
* [[Volcano]]es A recent episode of The 700 Club presented Seven Wonders Museum curator [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/194479_helensmusem09.html Lloyd Anderson], who claims Mount St. Helens is proof that the earth can change drastically in a short period of time. This needs to be refuted with some hard facts.

==Media==
===Books, articles, essays, other writings===
* ''[[The End of Faith]]'' by [[Sam Harris]]
* ''[[Skeptical Inquirer]]''
* ''[[Life--How Did it Get Here?]] By Evolution or By Creation?'', Watchtower society anti-evolution book.
* ''[[Atheist Books and Literature Listings]]'' Listing of published atheist literature by title and author

===Film, TV, video===

===Websites, blogs, podcasts===
* [[Eight Hour Lunch]]
* [[Secular Web]]
* [[Point of Inquiry]]

==General, miscellaneous, other==

==See also==
* [[:Category:Stubs|Stub articles]] which ought to be expanded.
* [[Special:Uncategorizedpages|Uncategorized pages]] which ought to be added to one or more [[:Category:Browse_categories|categories]].
* Arguments from ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' and ''[[The Non-Prophets]]''. [[User:Sans Deity|Matt Dillahunty]] has asked that if you hear a good argument on one of the [[ACA]]'s shows, please add it here if it isn't here already.

[[Category:Content development|Requested pages]]

Iron Chariots Wiki:Requested pages

2009-01-20T12:15:50Z

Enshoku: /* Fictional, Biblical, scriptural */

Got a page that you would love to see an article about, but you don't have the time or knowledge to write it yourself? Put a request here and somebody may do your work for you!

For those who are editing, don't forget to check the [[Special:Wantedpages|Wanted Pages]] list.

If any of the requests below correspond to existing articles, but those articles are still very short, please remove the entry here and tag the article with an appropriate [[Project:stub template|stub template]]. Stub articles in need of expansion can be found in the [[:Category:Stubs|Stubs]] category.

==People==
: ''See also:'' [[Iron Chariots Wiki:Requested pages/Lists of atheists]]
===Living===
* [[Josh McDowell]]
* [[Roy Moore]]
* [[Ralph Reed]]
* [[James Rutz]] ([[Jim Rutz]] as redirect)
===Dead/historical===
* [[Carl Sagan]]
===Fictional, Biblical, scriptural===
* [[Abraham]]
* [[Muhammad]]
* [[Paul]]
* [[Shiva]]
* [[Thomas]]

==Religions and religious topics==
* [[Blasphemy]]
* [[Calvinism]] ([[Calvinist]] as redirect)
* [[Canon]]
* [[Church]]
* [[Crimen Sollicitationis]] (A document from the Catholic Church that set the global policy for the treatment of allegations of sex crimes)
* [[Cult]]
* [[Doctrine]]
* [[Heresy]], [[heretic]], [[heretical]]
* [[Israel]], [[Israelite]], [[Israelites]]
* [[Pagan]], [[Pagans]], [[Paganism]]
* [[Pantheon]]
* [[Rapture]]
* [[Saint]]
* [[Sermon]]
* [[Trinity]] Explain [[trinitarianism]] and the heretical concepts surrounding it such as [[modulism]] (one god shows self in three ways) and [[tritheism]] (three seperate beings)
* [[Worship]]
* [[Zion]], [[Zionism]], [[Zionist]]
===Specific denominations, sects, cults===
* [[Bahá'í faith]]
* [[Jainism]]
* [[Orthodox Judaism]]
* [[Shia Islam]] (see [[Wikipedia:Shia Islam]] for various possible redirects)
* [[Shinto]] ([[Shintoism]] as redirect)
* [[Sunni Islam]] ([[Sunni]] as redirect)

===Religious texts===
* almost all of the individual books of the Bible (see [[Template:Books of the Bible]] for a listing)
* [[Dead Sea scrolls]]
* [[Torah]], [[Tanakh]], [[Talmud]]
===Bible stories, parables, etc.===
* [[Gods in the Old Testament]] — episodes 464, 466, and 483 of ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' could be good starting points

==Supernatural, paranormal, magic, myth==
* [[Astrology]]
* [[Paranormal]]
* [[Witchcraft]], [[witch]]
* [[Ghost]]

==Philosophy, logic, ethics==
* [[Premise]]
* [[Proof]]
* [[Suicide]]

==Politics, society, culture==
* [[Abortion]]
* [[Faith-based initiative]]s
* [[Science fiction]]
===Law===
(Court cases, the state of freedom of religion in various states and countries, etc.)
* [[Torcaso v. Watkins]] -- The Supreme Court case that extended "no religious test" to states.

==Science==
* [[Emotion]]
* [[Human]]
* [[Mind]]
* [[Nature]]
* [[Volcano]]es A recent episode of The 700 Club presented Seven Wonders Museum curator [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/194479_helensmusem09.html Lloyd Anderson], who claims Mount St. Helens is proof that the earth can change drastically in a short period of time. This needs to be refuted with some hard facts.

==Media==
===Books, articles, essays, other writings===
* ''[[The End of Faith]]'' by [[Sam Harris]]
* ''[[Skeptical Inquirer]]''
* ''[[Life--How Did it Get Here?]] By Evolution or By Creation?'', Watchtower society anti-evolution book.
* ''[[Atheist Books and Literature Listings]]'' Listing of published atheist literature by title and author

===Film, TV, video===

===Websites, blogs, podcasts===
* [[Eight Hour Lunch]]
* [[Secular Web]]
* [[Point of Inquiry]]

==General, miscellaneous, other==

==See also==
* [[:Category:Stubs|Stub articles]] which ought to be expanded.
* [[Special:Uncategorizedpages|Uncategorized pages]] which ought to be added to one or more [[:Category:Browse_categories|categories]].
* Arguments from ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' and ''[[The Non-Prophets]]''. [[User:Sans Deity|Matt Dillahunty]] has asked that if you hear a good argument on one of the [[ACA]]'s shows, please add it here if it isn't here already.

[[Category:Content development|Requested pages]]

Jesus fulfilled prophecy

2009-01-20T12:13:25Z

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There are literally hundreds of claimed instances where Jesus fulfilled prophecies. This page is intended to contain a list of claims of fulfilled [[prophecy]] and responses. The vast majority of which can be disregarded as non-evidence simply due to their very nature.

===Criteria for a fulfilled prophecy===

# The prophecy must be properly interpreted.
# The prophecy must be made before the event it fulfills.
# The prophecy must be far enough in advance of the event to make educated guesswork impossible.
# The event which fulfills the prophecy must have actually happened.
# The prophecy must not be fulfilled as a direct consequence of the prophecy itself existing.

No Biblical prophecy passes such a criteria, in fact, given this criteria much of Biblical prophecy doesn't even rise to the level of being prophecy. Even a much weaker criteria inevitably must disregard much of prophecy as unproven, vague, misinterpreted, and unfulfilled.

===Unprovable===

Some prophecies are simply unprovable. For example one prophecy says that the messiah existed before the rest of creation. This would obviously be impossible to prove or disprove. You would first have to prove that Jesus preexisted everything in order to assert that he fulfilled this prophecy.

Since there is [[mythicism|no evidence for a historical Jesus]] the only evidence for any prophecies fulfilled by him or his existence are all Biblical. Thus no prophecies can be demonstrated as fulfilled.

===Written For the Purpose===

The Gospels may have been written as a fulfillment of the Old Testament. In much the same way the [[Left Behind]] series fulfills Christian prophecy, the New Testament fulfills Jewish prophecy. If true, the work itself was written specifically because the prophecies exist, not because independent events met the criteria.

The Gospels go to great lengths to provide evidence for fulfilled prophecy for example, Matthew 1 and Luke 3 each give [[Joseph]]'s genealogy back to [[David]] (neither genealogy agrees with each other) in order to fulfill prophecy that the Messiah would be of David's line. Luke 1-2 go to great lengths to show that the Messiah was born of a virgin making the genealogy given in Luke 3 completely moot anyway, in order to fulfill a misreading of the prophecy in {{Bible|Isaiah 7:14}} which some translations read as 'virgin' while others translate as 'woman'.

{{Bible|Matthew 27:9}} claims that Judas betraying Jesus for 30 pieces of silver is a fulfillment of a prophecy in Jeremiah showing that the writer had knowledge of the prophecies the gospel was reportedly fulfilling. The ''prophecy'' in question appears in {{Bible|Zechariah 11:13}} (Matthew says it's Jeremiah and is completely wrong) ''And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD.''

Parts of the gospels go to great lengths to prove that they fulfill [[Old Testament]] prophecy about the messiah, sometimes stretching and misinterpreting what the Old Testament actually says, but nonetheless fulfilling these stretches and misinterpretations. Such as the claim in {{Bible|Matthew 2:15}} ''And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.'' that it fulfills the prophecy of {{Bible|Hosea 11:1}} which isn't a prophecy at all but a simple reference to Exodus ''When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.''

All of which goes to support the idea that the Gospels are simply written to fulfill prophecy, not that they happened and fulfilled prophecy.

===Circular===

Also, most of the Messiah prophecies require us to accept what the Bible says at face value. So therefore they would only be convincing if you ALREADY accepted the Bible as true. This is an example of circular reasoning:

*We know the Bible is true because the prophecies in it were fulfilled. We know the prophecies in the Bible were fulfilled because it says that they were.

==Examples==
===About his birth===
{{Bible|Genesis 3:15}} Supposedly means that the [[messiah]] would be born of a human woman.
However the only alternatives are that he would be born of a man, some form of animal, or simply poofed into existence on earth. All of which would have been much more amazing. It would take a miracle for this one NOT to have come true.

{{Bible|Isaiah 7:14}} ''14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.'' It is said that this verse is prophesying that the messiah would be born of a virgin.
But whether his mother was actually a virgin at the time cannot be proven. After all she was dating at the time. We are just supposed to believe that she was actually a virgin because the Bible, or more specifically, Matthew says so.
Plus nobody called Jesus 'Immanuel' except one time when Matthew was referencing this very scripture, almost like an afterthought.

{{Bible|Genesis 22:18 }} In this verse god is promising Abraham that ''in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.'' Apologists claim that this means that the messiah would be one of Abraham's descendants.
That's not what god said. And even if it is, then it's not true anyway. The genealogies recorded in Matthew and Luke are based on his fathers line. If Mary was really a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus, then Jesus was not Joseph's son.
So if that's what god meant when talking to Abraham, then we have to believe that the genealogies recorded in the gospels are accurate, even though they both conflict with each other.

{{Bible|Micah 5:2}} ''2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.'' Apologists say that this means that the messiah would be born in Bethlehem, which according to the Gospel is where Jesus was born.

But Jesus did not become the ruler of Israel. Plus that's hardly a convincing prophecy anyway. It's more like a requirement then a prediction, since nobody from anywhere else would have been considered.

{{Bible|Jeremiah 31:15}}''15 Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not.'' According to Matthew, this was actually a prophecy about king Herod killing the children of Bethlehem.

But taken in context this scripture is nothing like a prophecy. It's a documentation of events that already happened to Rahel, followed by comfort because her children will return. Plus Ramah is over 20 miles from Bethlehem.
It's worth mentioning, that Matthew is the ''only record'' of this slaughter even taking place. If all the young children in that area were murdered by the king, you'd think there would be a whole bunch of poems, songs, stories and records of that event. Not to mention the angry mobs demanding revenge.

[[Category:Bible]]
[[Category:Christianity]]
[[Category:Religious mythology]]

Goldilocks zone

2009-01-20T12:09:58Z

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#REDIRECT [[habitable zone]]

Habitable zone

2009-01-20T12:08:07Z

Enshoku: killed the red link, making it a redirect now

In astronomy, the "habitable zone" refers to regions in space around stars that allow for optimal conditions either for the emergence of native life via [[abiogenesis]] or for Terrestrial life to live in. These zones are usually a region of space described between two circles or spheres in which a planet, asteroid belt, or space station may orbit through. The margin of space between these two circles or spheres may vary in thickness and distance from the host star depending on the size, type, and age of the star, as well as the size and type of planet. This is also commonly known as the Goldilocks zone because it has conditions which are "just right" for life.

==Arguments==

A less sophisticated version of the [[fine tuning argument]] or [[anthropic principle]] is as follows
:''If the Earth were just a few miles further away from the sun, it would be too cold for life to exist, and if the earth were just a few miles closer to the sun, it would be too hot for life to exist. Surely you can see the intelligent design in that!''

==Counter-Arguments==

<blockquote>". . . imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, `This is an interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!'" - Douglas Adams (As quoted by Richard Dawkins) </blockquote>

The fallacy is applying life as-we-know-it to a theoretical world with significantly different environmental characteristics. Life on earth is well adapted to the conditions on Earth. If those conditions had differed, even slightly, life as-we-know-it would not be possible. The key phrase is "as-we-know-it". Compare Antarctica to the Sahara. These are some of the most extreme environments on earth, and yet we discover life forms in both of them. Bacteria and micro-organisms thrive in even more diverse environments - in sulfur ponds and surrounding volcanic vents, for example.

Talk:Atheism

2009-01-20T12:04:06Z

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The "strong atheists" link is supposed to be redirecting to strong atheism (even that entry shows this) - but it's redirecting to weak atheism. Any idea why?

[[User:Sans Deity|Sans Deity]] 09:17, 20 June 2006 (MST)

I felt the atheism, strong atheism, and weak atheism articles were stubs. So I merged them into one article (keeping as much of the original writing as I could). hope nobody's upset! - [[User:MadOtaku|MadOtaku]] 13:02, October 24 2006 (PST)

I think that makes sense, at least until there's a need (read: sufficient content) for them to be moved to separate entries. - [[User:Sans Deity|Sans Deity]] 16:51, 24 October 2006 (CDT)

Should we be adding any more information to this page, as Atheism is a pretty major subject for the wiki, in my opinion? I mean, look at Conservapedia, they have a 'wonderful' article about Atheism that is at least ten times longer than necessary, but at least it explains how we're all mass murderers and immoral... wait that's not a good example. XD - [[User:RoaringAtheist|RoaringAtheist]] 17 Januari 2009
:While you can add what you'd like, most of the people coming here for information are looking for counter-apologetics, considering that the purpose of this wiki is that very subject. Most of the people using the wiki would probably self-identify as atheist or agnostic, so it isn't the most important article in the world. [[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 06:04, 20 January 2009 (CST)

Dungeons & Dragons

2009-01-14T03:58:29Z

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{{wikipedia}}
'''Dungeons & Dragons''' is a fantasy roleplaying game published by Wizards of the Coast. The original Dungeons & Dragons, designed by Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson, was first published in 1974 by Gygax's company Tactical Studies Rules (TSR). The game system has also been converted into several dozen best-selling Personal Computer (PC) games, including the Neverwinter Nights series, Icewind Dale, and the Baldur's Gate series.

==Controversy==

Dungeons & Dragons has come under attack from the [[religious right]] for ostensibly promoting [[Satanism]] and [[witchcraft]]. The controversy inspired a [[Chick tract]] entitled ''[[Dark Dungeons]]''. [[Patricia Pulling]] also led a crusade to fight D&D with her one-person activist group called "Bothered About Dungeons and Dragons" (BADD).

==External links==

* [http://www.wizards.com/Dnd/ Official site]
* [http://www.chick.com/articles/dnd.asp Straight Talk on Dungeons and Dragons] by [[William Schnoebelen]] (an [[apologist]])
* [http://www.theescapist.com The Escapist], a roleplaying advocacy website

[[Category:Games]]

Buffet christian

2009-01-13T00:32:20Z

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#Redirect [[cafeteria christian]]

Mary (mother of Jesus)

2009-01-12T13:12:44Z

Enshoku: {sp}

{{stub}}
In [[Christian]]ity, '''Mary''' is the mother of [[Jesus Christ]]. She is often referred to as '''the Virgin Mary''' because Christians believe she had never had sex before giving birth to Jesus. Due to her position as the mother of the Christ, it is an element of [[Roman Catholic]] doctrine that Mary was born without [[original sin]], a doctrine known as [[immaculate conception]].

[[Category:Characters in the Bible]]

Jesus fulfilled prophecy

2009-01-11T23:57:41Z

Enshoku: Removed stub tag

There are literally hundreds of claimed instances where Jesus fulfilled prophecies. This page is intended to contain a list of claims of fulfilled [[prophecy]] and responses. The vast majority of which can be disregarded as non-evidence simply due to their very nature.

===Criteria for a fulfilled prophecy===

# The prophecy must be properly interpreted.
# The prophecy must be made before the event it fulfills.
# The prophecy must be far enough in advance of the event to make educated guesswork impossible.
# The event which fulfills the prophecy must have actually happened.
# The prophecy must not be fulfilled as a direct consequence of the prophecy itself existing.

No Biblical prophecy passes such a criteria, in fact, given this criteria much of Biblical prophecy doesn't even rise to the level of being prophecy. Even a much weaker criteria inevitably must disregard much of prophecy as unproven, vague, misinterpreted, and unfulfilled.

===Unprovable===

Some prophecies are simply unprovable. For example one prophecy says that the messiah existed before the rest of creation. This would obviously be impossible to prove or disprove. You would first have to prove that Jesus pre-existed everything in order to assert that he fulfilled this prophecy.

Since there is [[mythicism|no evidence for a historical Jesus]] the only evidence for any prophecies fulfilled by him or his existence are all Biblical. Thus no prophecies can be demonstrated as fulfilled.

===Written For the Purpose===

The Gospels may have been written as a fulfillment of the Old Testament. In much the same way the [[Left Behind]] series fulfills Christian prophecy, the New Testament fulfills Jewish prophecy. If true, the work itself was written specifically because the prophecies exist, not because independent events met the criteria.

The Gospels go to great lengths to provide evidence for fulfilled prophecy for example, Matthew 1 and Luke 3 each give [[Joseph]]'s genealogy back to [[David]] (neither genealogy agrees with each other) in order to fulfill prophecy that the Messiah would be of David's line. Luke 1-2 go to great lengths to show that the Messiah was born of a virgin making the genealogy given in Luke 3 completely moot anyway, in order to fulfill a misreading of the prophecy in {{Bible|Isaiah 7:14}} which some translations read as 'virgin' while others translate as 'woman'.

{{Bible|Matthew 27:9}} claims that Judas betraying Jesus for 30 pieces of silver is a fulfillment of a prophecy in Jeremiah showing that the writer had knowledge of the prophecies the gospel was reportedly fulfilling. The ''prophecy'' in question appears in {{Bible|Zechariah 11:13}} (Matthew says it's Jeremiah and is completely wrong) ''And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD.''

Parts of the gospels go to great lengths to prove that they fulfill [[Old Testament]] prophecy about the messiah, sometimes stretching and misinterpreting what the Old Testament actually says, but nonetheless fulfilling these stretches and misinterpretations. Such as the claim in {{Bible|Matthew 2:15}} ''And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.'' that it fulfills the prophecy of {{Bible|Hosea 11:1}} which isn't a prophecy at all but a simple reference to Exodus ''When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.''

All of which goes to support the idea that the Gospels are simply written to fulfill prophecy, not that they happened and fulfilled prophecy.

===Circular===

Also, most of the Messiah prophecies require us to accept what the Bible says at face value. So therefore they would only be convincing if you ALREADY accepted the Bible as true. This is an example of circular reasoning:

*We know the Bible is true because the prophecies in it were fulfilled. We know the prophecies in the Bible were fulfilled because it says that they were.

==Examples==
===About his birth===
{{Bible|Genesis 3:15}} Supposedly means that the [[messiah]] would be born of a human woman.
However the only alternatives are that he would be born of a man, some form of animal, or simply poofed into existence on earth. All of which would have been much more amazing. It would take a miracle for this one NOT to have come true.

{{Bible|Isaiah 7:14}} ''14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.'' It is said that this verse is prophesying that the messiah would be born of a virgin.
But whether his mother was actually a virgin at the time cannot be proven. After all she was dating at the time. We are just supposed to believe that she was actually a virgin because the Bible, or more specifically, Matthew says so.
Plus nobody called Jesus 'Immanuel' except one time when Matthew was referencing this very scripture, almost like an afterthought.

{{Bible|Genesis 22:18 }} In this verse god is promising Abraham that ''in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.'' Apologists claim that this means that the messiah would be one of Abraham's decendants.
That's not what god said. And even if it is, then it's not true anyway. The genealogies recorded in Matthew and Luke are based on his fathers line. If Mary was really a virgin when she gave birth to Jesus, then Jesus was not Joseph's son.
So if that's what god meant when talking to Abraham, then we have to believe that the genealogies recorded in the gospels are accurate, even though they both conflict with each other.

{{Bible|Micah 5:2}} ''2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.'' Apologists say that this means that the messiah would be born in Bethlehem, which according to the Gospel is where Jesus was born.

But Jesus did not become the ruler of Israel. Plus that's hardly a convincing prophecy anyway. It's more like a requirement then a prediction, since nobody from anywhere else would have been considered.

{{Bible|Jeremiah 31:15}}''15 Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not.'' According to Matthew, this was actually a prophecy about king Herod killing the children of Bethlehem.

But taken in context this scripture is nothing like a prophecy. It's a documentation of events that already happened to Rahel, followed by comfort because her children will return. Plus Ramah is over 20 miles from Bethlehem.
It's worth mentioning, that Matthew is the ''only record'' of this slaughter even taking place. If all the young children in that area were murdered by the king, you'd think there would be a whole bunch of poems, songs, stories and records of that event. Not to mention the angry mobs demanding revenge.

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Kirk Cameron

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Kirk Cameron is a former child star who used to play Mike Seaver on ''Growing Pains''. He says [[I used to be an atheist|he used to be a devout atheist]], until he asked himself "What if I'm wrong?" Today he is an ardent apologist, appearing in the movie version of ''[[Left Behind]]'', and hosting [[The Way of the Master]] with [[Ray Comfort]]. Kirk is also starring in an upcoming movie [http://www.fireproofthemovie.com/main.php Fireproof] of which the synopsis being a firefighter (Kirk) starts losing his marriage to his wife and his father suggests turning to God and the bible to try to save the marriage.

== The Banana Argument ==
Cameron is most famous for his banana argument which he heralded as "The Atheists Worst Nightmare". In this scene with Ray Comfort, he takes a banana and demonstrates the properties that show that it is the perfect food created by God for humans. He demonstrates that the peel is non-slip, its ridges fit perfectly to those in human hands for easy gripping, it has a "pop-cap" for easy peeling and is therefore designed by an intelligent designer i.e. God.

What Cameron utterly fails to grasp is the fact that he is demonstrating the properties of a domesticated banana. What that means is the banana we have come to know and love has been selectively bred and manipulated to have those properties. Therefore, all Kirk Cameron succeeded in proving was the fact that he had not researched anything and demonstrated a "theory" which he must have come up with 5 minutes prior to the segment with no basic understanding of what he was saying

[[Category:People|Cameron, Kirk]]
[[Category:Christian apologists|Cameron, Kirk]]
[[Category:Entertainers|Cameron, Kirk]]

Mary (mother of Jesus)

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In [[Christian]]ity, '''Mary''' is the mother of [[Jesus Christ]]. She is often referred to as '''the Virgin Mary''' because she had never had sex before giving birth to Jesus. Due to her position as the mother of the Christ, it is an element of [[Roman Catholic]] doctrine that Mary was born without [[original sin]], a doctrine known as [[immaculate conception]].

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Earth

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{{wikipedia}}
'''Earth''' is the third planet from the [[Sun]] in our solar system. It is the only planet — or, indeed, the only ''place'' in the universe — that we know harbors [[life]].

[[Scientist]]s estimate the [[age of the Earth]] to be approximately 4.57 [[billion]] years. This is roughly one third of the estimated [[age of the universe]], 13.7 billion years. These estimates directly contradict the views of [[young earth creationist]]s that the [[universe]] (including Earth and its life) was created by [[God]] 6,000 to 10,000 years ago in accordance with the book of [[Genesis]].

In some [[religion]]s the Earth is worshiped as a deity.

==See also==
* [[Gaia]]
* [[Moon]]
* [[Mother Earth]]

[[Category:Science]]

The Bible Answer Man

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'''''The Bible Answer Man''''' is a radio show hosted by [[Hank Hanegraaff]].

==External link==
* [http://www.equip.org/bam/index.asp Official site]

[[Category:Christian shows|Bible Answer Man, The]]

Mythical being

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{{wikipedia|Legendary creature}}
A '''mythical creature''' is a fictional living thing, usually an animal or animal-like organism, that exists only in [[mythology]] or [[folklore]]. Sometimes these creatures have [[magical]] powers, sometimes not.

Examples of (mostly) non-religious, mythical creatures include:
* [[Leprechaun]]s
* [[Unicorn]]s
* [[Dragon]]s
* [[Loch Ness monster]]
* [[wikipedia:bigfoot|Bigfoot]]
* [[Fairies]]

Because most [[theist]]s agree that non-religious mythical creatures do not really exist, they often serve as good substitutes for [[God]] (or [[angel]]s, etc.) in [[counter-apologetics]], either to show the weakness of a theist's argument, or to show the reasonableness of a corresponding counter-argument — especially in the context of the reasonableness of belief without evidence, or the nature of burden of proof when applied to issues of existence.

'''Example'''
* ''Atheist:'' "Do you believe in leprechauns?"
* ''Theist:'' "No."
* ''Atheist:'' "Why not?"
* ''Theist:'' "Because they obviously don't exist."
* ''Atheist:'' "[[You can't prove God doesn't exist|Prove it]]."
* ''Theist:'' "I don't have to! No one really believes in leprechauns."
* ''Aheist:'' "Do you have ''evidence'' that they don't exist?"
* ''Theist:'' "No, but you don't have evidence that they do."
* ''Aheist:'' "You're right. But why not believe in them anyway, since we don't have good evidence either way?"
* (and so forth...)

[[Category:Mythology]]

Atheist Blogs Aggregated

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'''Atheist Blogs Aggregated''' is a website that collects [[Wikipedia:Blog|blog]] posts "of interest to atheists, and (presumably, mostly) by atheists".

Despite the UK [[Wikipedia:Domain name|domain]], the site collects posts from a variety of sources worldwide. Posts are almost exclusively in English.

==External link==
* http://www.atheistblogs.co.uk/

[[Category:Atheist web sites]]

Miracle

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A '''miracle''' is anything unexplainable which seems to defy the laws of physics, nature, or logic in order to achieve an end, usually something very [[good]] or mystifying.

The more common definition of "miracle" is much looser than the technical definition. In the common definition a miracle is anything that causes wonder or amazement, even if it's completely explainable. For example, here's a comparison between the two definitions:

*''Technical:'' "I was walking down the street and an iron girder suspended above a construction site fell as I was walking underneath. Right as it was about to hit me it suddenly flew to the left and landed in the middle of the street, completely missing me and everyone else there! [[God]] was watching out for me."
*''Common:'' "My son was just born this morning. He has the most beautiful eyes in the world. Childbirth is such a miracle!"

Some [[Christian]]s have a skewed and often disturbing view of what a miracle is. To them, a miracle is something which spares them pain or hardship, even if it deals out said pain or hardship on someone else. For example, a Christian man is driving down the street when a car comes out of nowhere and hits him. Both cars are totaled and everyone dies except him. Later on, when he's interviewed by the local news station he claims that God was watching out for him ([[Argument from incomplete devastation]]). Obviously this is total bunk. The Christian God is said to be [[omnipotence|omnipotent]] and [[omniscience|omniscient]], thus he knew the accident would happen, he knew how to save everyone, and he was able to. Why he didn't is anyone's guess. In any case, the fact that one man survived doesn't mean that he owes his continued existence to God. This is also a good example of the [[problem of evil]].

==Common miracles==

In his book, ''[[Unweaving the Rainbow]]'', [[Richard Dawkins]] coined a term to deal with "miracles" that merely turn out to be coincidental in nature: [[PETWHAC]], or "Population of Events That Would Have Appeared Coincidental". Dawkins points out that many mundane events occur every single day to every person on the planet, and the human mind has a great capacity to identify patterns where none exist. Dawkins explains that there is a space of events with perfectly normal probability, which could be interpreted as "miraculous" by people who have that sort of mindset.

For instance, suppose that you are thinking about a friend, and that friend just happens to call you. Is this event supernatural in nature? Extremely doubtful. People think about others all the time, and they also call each other all the time. Given enough time, there is a virtual guarantee that a coincidence of this nature will occur.

==Historical miracles==
''Main article: [[Miracles in history]]''

Miracle claims in the distant past, especially the alleged resurrection of Jesus, play a major role in some varieties of Christian apologetics. The reasons to doubt such claims are many, including the common sense observation that most people would be skeptical of miracles outside their religion, the importance of observed regularities in historical research, and empirical considerations such as the lack of modern miracles.

==Faith healing==
''Main article: [[Faith healing]]''

In modern times, many Christian evangelists have claimed the ability to supernaturally heal diseases. Some Christians have cited them as powerful evidence for the existence of God and the truth of Christianity. However, investigations of faith healers by men such as doctor William Nolen and magician [[James Randi]] have failed to find any evidence of actual miracles, and have turned up much evidence of fraud or, at best, self-deception.

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Talk:Creation myths

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I like the idea of this page. The atheist position is much stronger when it challenges all irrational religious beliefs, instead of focusing predominantly on Christianity. [[User:Rivalarrival|Rival]] 11:56, 8 January 2009 (CST)

I also like the concept. I'm not sure of the scope, though (what should be included). With time, I suppose. --[[User:Zurahn|Zurahn]] 00:24, 9 January 2009 (CST)
:As long as you don't go into the fiery pit that is super obscurity you should be fine. If it is currently or ever was a popular creation story among certain peoples you should be fine. More obscure ones could be added as well, if they happen to be currently (speaking of, I'll add Scientology tomorrow, and add JW's to the christian section as well).
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 19:55, 9 January 2009 (CST)

== Merger ==

Thisshouldbe merged with [[Creation story]]. I didn't know about the other article when I started it. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:39, 10 January 2009 (CST)
:I've merged it, but it still needs a bit of wikification.[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 10:26, 10 January 2009 (CST)

Talk:Creation myths

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Creation myths

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Creation story

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A '''creation story''' is a traditional account of how the world and/or humans came into existence. Such stories vary greatly across different cultures. They serve the purpose of explaining the origins of life, the earth, or the universe.

==Native American==
Native American creation stories typically focus on the creation of the Earth as opposed to the creation of existence itself. Also common is the theme of the Earth as the back of a turtle.

*In the Iroquois creation story, the Sky People lived in the sky as there was no Earth below. In response to the chief's daughter's illness, a hole for a tree was dug, but the tree fell down to the ocean below taking the daughter with it. After landing on the back of a turtle, a toad went after the tree, brought back magic dirt that brought forth the growth of the land. All the animals pitched in to make a magic ball of light to be the sun.[http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/firstnations/earth.html]

*In the Navajo Creation story, the Insect People traveled through four separate world before creating the first man and women in the Fifth World, bounded by four sacred mountains fastened to the Earth by a lightning bolt, a stone knife, a sunbeam, or a rainbow.

*In the Apache creation story, there was nothing, then suddenly a disk appeared and the creator woke up as if from a nap. The creator promptly looked around creating the dawn. The creator rubbed his face with his hands, then rubbed his hands together to create Girl-Without-Parents, Sun-God, and Small-Boy. The four rubbed their hand together to create a ball of dirt, and took turns kicking it to make it bigger to become the Earth.

==Judeo-Christian==

The Christian creation myth is found in the very first chapter of the bible, [[genesis|genesis]]. Genesis 1 describes a different order and concept than Genesis 2, though many believe genesis 2 happened during genesis 1.

*In the Jewish/Christian creation story of {{Bible|Genesis 2}}, God creates the first man Adam out of clay, then creates all the animals to be named by Adam. Then God creates the first women Eve out of Adam's rib. The two are given free reign over the magical garden they live in with the exception of a magical tree. However, a talking snake convinces Eve to eat of the magical tree, and Eve convinces Adam to eat from it too. This provides the two with knowledge of right and wrong. In order to protect God's other magical tree, Adam and Eve are cast out of the garden.

*In the Jewish/Christian creation story of {{Bible|Genesis 1}}, he creates the earth in 6 literal days, then he rests on the seventh as an example to man to show them how to live. On the first day light was created. On the second day, the sky was created, and on the third day land was created out of the waters along with all the flora. On the fourth day, the sun, moon, and stars were created. On the fifth and sixth day, non land and land animals were created, respectively.

==Other Stories==

*In the Norse creation story, the Earth was created out of the body of Ymir killed by Odin, Vili, and Vé, when the sons of Bor carried his body to the middle of Ginnungagap and made the seas and lakes out of his blood, the earth from his flesh, trees from his hair and mountains from his bones, rocks and pebbles from his teeth and broken bones. Midgard (Earth) was created as an inner stronghold (for the sons of Bor) out of Ymir's eyebrows. The first man (Ask) and women (Embla) were created out of trees found walking on the beach by Odin. Vili gave them understanding and movement, Vé gave them clothing and names.

*In the Australian Aborigine story the world was lifeless but all the prerequisites of life were there, then time split apart, and life burst forth. The watering holes which were previously only holes in the surface of the planet, became watering holes. The Ancestors emerged from the watering holes covered in mud. They opened their eyes and sang themselves into different animals.

*The ancient Egyptians, believed three separate creation stories. There are some similarities. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_myth]
**Atum arose out of the primeval waters. He masturbated. Moisture arose from his semen and dryness from his breath. Note: There is no explanation how a complex reproductive system capable of producing semen arose out of (what?). Moisture and dryness copulated. This and further copulations led to everything that exists.
**Ra arose in an egg or a blue lotus due to some interaction between air and water. Ra created other gods and goddesses.
**Ptah is eternal like the Judeo-Christian god concept. The world and the rest of the pantheon exist because he spoke the word.

==Modern cosmology==

The modern, scientific understanding of how the [[universe]] began (and how the [[Earth]] was formed, and how [[life]] arose, and how [[human]]s evolved) can be seen as the latest in a long line of creation stories. In fact, [[Creationist]]s (and [[Wikipedia:Postmodernism|postmodernist philosophers]]) sometimes try to represent these scientific theories as ''merely'' stories, on par with any of the others humans have invented through history. The modern explanations, however, are the only ones that have been based on careful analysis of scientific data. As such, they are the only "stories" that can be — and have been — successfully tested against observations of how the world actually works today.

==See also==
* [[Adam and Eve]]
* [[Creationism]]
* [[Origin of the universe]]
* http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/cordelia.htm - Mayan, Micmac, and Scandanavian myths
[[Category:Religious mythology]]

Talk:Creation myths

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==People==
: ''See also:'' [[Iron Chariots Wiki:Requested pages/Lists of atheists]]
===Living===
* [[Josh McDowell]]
* [[Roy Moore]]
* [[Ralph Reed]]
* [[James Rutz]] ([[Jim Rutz]] as redirect)
===Dead/historical===
* [[Carl Sagan]]
===Fictional, Biblical, scriptural===
* [[Abraham]]
* [[Muhammed]]
* [[Paul]]
* [[Shiva]]
* [[Thomas]]

==Religions and religious topics==
* [[Blasphemy]]
* [[Calvinism]] ([[Calvinist]] as redirect)
* [[Canon]]
* [[Church]]
* [[Crimen Sollicitationis]] (A document from the Catholic Church that set the global policy for the treatment of allegations of sex crimes)
* [[Cult]]
* [[Doctrine]]
* [[Heresy]], [[heretic]], [[heretical]]
* [[Israel]], [[Israelite]], [[Israelites]]
* [[Pagan]], [[Pagans]], [[Paganism]]
* [[Pantheon]]
* [[Rapture]]
* [[Saint]]
* [[Sermon]]
* [[Trinity]] Explain [[trinitarianism]] and the heretical concepts surrounding it such as [[modulism]] (one god shows self in three ways) and [[tritheism]] (three seperate beings)
* [[Worship]]
* [[Zion]], [[Zionism]], [[Zionist]]
===Specific denominations, sects, cults===
* [[Bahá'í faith]]
* [[Jainism]]
* [[Orthodox Judaism]]
* [[Shia Islam]] (see [[Wikipedia:Shia Islam]] for various possible redirects)
* [[Shinto]] ([[Shintoism]] as redirect)
* [[Sunni Islam]] ([[Sunni]] as redirect)

===Religious texts===
* almost all of the individual books of the Bible (see [[Template:Books of the Bible]] for a listing)
* [[Dead Sea scrolls]]
* [[Torah]], [[Tanakh]], [[Talmud]]
===Bible stories, parables, etc.===
* [[Gods in the Old Testament]] — episodes 464, 466, and 483 of ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' could be good starting points

==Supernatural, paranormal, magic, myth==
* [[Astrology]]
* [[Paranormal]]
* [[Witchcraft]], [[witch]]
* [[Ghost]]

==Philosophy, logic, ethics==
* [[Premise]]
* [[Proof]]
* [[Suicide]]

==Politics, society, culture==
* [[Abortion]]
* [[Faith-based initiative]]s
* [[Science fiction]]
===Law===
(Court cases, the state of freedom of religion in various states and countries, etc.)
* [[Torcaso v. Watkins]] -- The Supreme Court case that extended "no religious test" to states.

==Science==
* [[Emotion]]
* [[Human]]
* [[Mind]]
* [[Nature]]
* [[Volcano]]es A recent episode of The 700 Club presented Seven Wonders Museum curator [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/194479_helensmusem09.html Lloyd Anderson], who claims Mount St. Helens is proof that the earth can change drastically in a short period of time. This needs to be refuted with some hard facts.

==Media==
===Books, articles, essays, other writings===
* ''[[The End of Faith]]'' by [[Sam Harris]]
* ''[[Skeptical Inquirer]]''
* ''[[Life--How Did it Get Here?]] By Evolution or By Creation?'', Watchtower society anti-evolution book.
* ''[[Atheist Books and Literature Listings]]'' Listing of published atheist literature by title and author

===Film, TV, video===

===Websites, blogs, podcasts===
* [[Eight Hour Lunch]]
* [[Secular Web]]
* [[Point of Inquiry]]

==General, miscellaneous, other==

==See also==
* [[:Category:Stubs|Stub articles]] which ought to be expanded.
* [[Special:Uncategorizedpages|Uncategorized pages]] which ought to be added to one or more [[:Category:Browse_categories|categories]].
* Arguments from ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' and ''[[The Non-Prophets]]''. [[User:Sans Deity|Matt Dillahunty]] has asked that if you hear a good argument on one of the [[ACA]]'s shows, please add it here if it isn't here already.

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==People==
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===Living===
* [[Josh McDowell]]
* [[Roy Moore]]
* [[Ralph Reed]]
* [[James Rutz]] ([[Jim Rutz]] as redirect)
===Dead/historical===
* [[Carl Sagan]]
===Fictional, Biblical, scriptural===
* [[Abraham]]
* [[Muhammed]]
* [[Paul]]
* [[Shiva]]
* [[Thomas]]

==Religions and religious topics==
* [[Blasphemy]]
* [[Calvinism]] ([[Calvinist]] as redirect)
* [[Canon]]
* [[Church]]
* [[Crimen Sollicitationis]] (A document from the Catholic Church that set the global policy for the treatment of allegations of sex crimes)
* [[Cult]]
* [[Doctrine]]
* [[Heresy]], [[heretic]], [[heretical]]
* [[Israel]], [[Israelite]], [[Israelites]]
* [[Pagan]], [[Pagans]], [[Paganism]]
* [[Pantheon]]
* [[Rapture]]
* [[Saint]]
* [[Sermon]]
* [[Trinity]] Explain [[trinitarianism]] and the heretical concepts surrounding it such as [[modulism]] (one god shows self in three ways) and [[tritheism]] (three seperate beings)
* [[Worship]]
* [[Zion]], [[Zionism]], [[Zionist]]
===Specific denominations, sects, cults===
* [[Bahá'í faith]]
* [[Jainism]]
* [[Orthodox Judaism]]
* [[Shia Islam]] (see [[Wikipedia:Shia Islam]] for various possible redirects)
* [[Shinto]] ([[Shintoism]] as redirect)
* [[Sunni Islam]] ([[Sunni]] as redirect)

===Religious texts===
* almost all of the individual books of the Bible (see [[Template:Books of the Bible]] for a listing)
* [[Dead Sea scrolls]]
* [[Torah]], [[Tanakh]], [[Talmud]]
===Bible stories, parables, etc.===
* [[Gods in the Old Testament]] — episodes 464, 466, and 483 of ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' could be good starting points

==Supernatural, paranormal, magic, myth==
* [[Astrology]]
* [[Paranormal]]
* [[Witchcraft]], [[witch]]
* [[Ghost]]

==Philosophy, logic, ethics==
* [[Premise]]
* [[Proof]]
* [[Suicide]]

==Politics, society, culture==
* [[Abortion]]
* [[Faith-based initiative]]s
* [[Science fiction]]
===Law===
(Court cases, the state of freedom of religion in various states and countries, etc.)
* [[Torcaso v. Watkins]] -- The Supreme Court case that extended "no religious test" to states.

==Science==
* [[Emotion]]
* [[Human]]
* [[Mind]]
* [[Nature]]
* [[Virtual particle]]s (I don't know much about them, but they have been mentioned as another possible way for the universe to come into existence without god.)
* [[Volcano]]es A recent episode of The 700 Club presented Seven Wonders Museum curator [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/194479_helensmusem09.html Lloyd Anderson], who claims Mount St. Helens is proof that the earth can change drastically in a short period of time. This needs to be refuted with some hard facts.

==Media==
===Books, articles, essays, other writings===
* ''[[The End of Faith]]'' by [[Sam Harris]]
* ''[[Skeptical Inquirer]]''
* ''[[Life--How Did it Get Here?]] By Evolution or By Creation?'', Watchtower society anti-evolution book.
* ''[[Atheist Books and Literature Listings]]'' Listing of published atheist literature by title and author

===Film, TV, video===

===Websites, blogs, podcasts===
* [[Eight Hour Lunch]]
* [[Secular Web]]
* [[Point of Inquiry]]

==General, miscellaneous, other==

==See also==
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Bad arguments against the existence of God

2009-01-08T21:59:08Z

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Bad arguments against the existence of God are those that most theists will easily rationalize their way out of. These may be [[logical fallacies]], or paradoxes that theists can explain away.

== Omniscience Versus Free Will ==
Some atheists will argue that since God supposedly knows everything, then everything is predestined. Since many theists do not accept the [[predestination]] doctrine, this appears to be a dilemma: either they must accept predestination or God is not omniscient.

[[Apologists]] who do not accept predestination may get out of this problem by arguing that God simply knows every possible outcome of every possible decision anyone can make, thus resolving the dilemma.

God allegedly knows every possible outcome. God does not know which outcome actually will happen Therefore God is not omniscient.

== Not wanting there to be a god / Hating God ==
In ''The Last Word'', Thomas Nagel
[http://books.google.com/books?id=COkPRvqFL7oC&pg=PA130&vq=%22I+don't+want+there+to+be+a+god%22 wrote]:
{{quote|It isn't just that I don't believe in God and, naturally, hope that I'm right in my belief. It's that I hope there is no God! I don't want there to be a God; I don't want the universe to be like that.}}
This is not a valid reason for disbelief: God either exists or doesn't exist, regardless of what we want.

Similarly, [[maltheism]] - the idea that god is evil - requires the existence of god.
1. I hate God
2. Therefore, God does not exist

This argument is invalid due to the contradictory nature if hating something that does not exist.

Talk:Biblical contradictions

2009-01-08T21:57:29Z

Enshoku:

Since its a stub, do we need examples added? If so, I'd be happy to add them.

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2009-01-08T21:55:49Z

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2009-01-08T21:54:58Z

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Creation myths

2009-01-08T21:45:22Z

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'''Creation myths''' are how people try and explain that the world exists. These myths make sense to the people who constructed the myths. Most creation myths are palpably absurd or provide no good explanation.

==Christian==
The Christian creation myth is found in the very first chapter of the bible, [[genesis|genesis]]. The creation story has been interpreted a multitude of different ways, but most literalists believe that:

*The earth was created in a single day, along with most of the rest of the universe

*Every living creature, the sun, the moon, the stars, and the plants were a result of a literal six day creation
**The reason god took six full days to create everything was to show man that he should also work on six days, and rest on the sabbath

It is arguable whether genesis two is a completely different creation story, or its a far more detailed look at day six of genesis one, though most Christians hold the latter belief.

==Egyptian==
#The ancient Egyptians, believed three separate creation stories. There are some similarities. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_myth]
##Atum arose out of the primeval waters. He masturbated. Moisture arose from his semen and dryness from his breath. Note: There is no explanation how a complex reproductive system capable of producing semen arose out of (what?). Moisture and dryness copulated. This and further copulations led to everything that exists.
##Ra arose in an egg or a blue lotus due to some interaction between air and water. Ra created other gods and goddesses.
##Ptah is eternal like the Judeo-Christian god concept. The world and the rest of the pantheon exist because he spoke the word.

==See Also==
http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/cordelia.htm - Mayan, Micmac, and Scandanavian myths

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===Religious texts===
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* [[Dead Sea scrolls]]
* [[Torah]], [[Tanakh]], [[Talmud]]
===Bible stories, parables, etc.===
* [[Gods in the Old Testament]] — episodes 464, 466, and 483 of ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' could be good starting points

==Supernatural, paranormal, magic, myth==
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* [[Nature]]
* [[Virtual particle]]s (I don't know much about them, but they have been mentioned as another possible way for the universe to come into existence without god.)
* [[Volcano]]es A recent episode of The 700 Club presented Seven Wonders Museum curator [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/194479_helensmusem09.html Lloyd Anderson], who claims Mount St. Helens is proof that the earth can change drastically in a short period of time. This needs to be refuted with some hard facts.

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* ''[[Skeptical Inquirer]]''
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* ''[[Atheist Books and Literature Listings]]'' Listing of published atheist literature by title and author

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===Religious texts===
* almost all of the individual books of the Bible (see [[Template:Books of the Bible]] for a listing)
* [[Dead Sea scrolls]]
* [[Torah]], [[Tanakh]], [[Talmud]]
===Bible stories, parables, etc.===
* [[Gods in the Old Testament]] — episodes 464, 466, and 483 of ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' could be good starting points

==Supernatural, paranormal, magic, myth==
* [[Astrology]]
* [[Paranormal]]
* [[Witchcraft]], [[witch]]
* [[Ghost]]

==Philosophy, logic, ethics==
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* [[Suicide]]

==Politics, society, culture==
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* [[Mind]]
* [[Nature]]
* [[Virtual particle]]s (I don't know much about them, but they have been mentioned as another possible way for the universe to come into existence without god.)
* [[Volcano]]es A recent episode of The 700 Club presented Seven Wonders Museum curator [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/194479_helensmusem09.html Lloyd Anderson], who claims Mount St. Helens is proof that the earth can change drastically in a short period of time. This needs to be refuted with some hard facts.

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* ''[[The End of Faith]]'' by [[Sam Harris]]
* ''[[Skeptical Inquirer]]''
* ''[[Life--How Did it Get Here?]] By Evolution or By Creation?'', Watchtower society anti-evolution book.
* ''[[Atheist Books and Literature Listings]]'' Listing of published atheist literature by title and author

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* [[Orthodox Judaism]]
* [[Shia Islam]] (see [[Wikipedia:Shia Islam]] for various possible redirects)
* [[Shinto]] ([[Shintoism]] as redirect)
* [[Sunni Islam]] ([[Sunni]] as redirect)

===Religious texts===
* almost all of the individual books of the Bible (see [[Template:Books of the Bible]] for a listing)
* [[Dead Sea scrolls]]
* [[Torah]], [[Tanakh]], [[Talmud]]
===Bible stories, parables, etc.===
* [[Gods in the Old Testament]] — episodes 464, 466, and 483 of ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' could be good starting points

==Supernatural, paranormal, magic, myth==
* [[Astrology]]
* [[Paranormal]]
* [[Witchcraft]], [[witch]]
* [[Ghost]]

==Philosophy, logic, ethics==
* [[Common sense]] You know, people put a lot of emphasis on common sense, I think a page about examples where common sense lies to us would be nice.
* [[Premise]]
* [[Proof]]
* [[Suicide]]

==Politics, society, culture==
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* [[Faith-based initiative]]s
* [[Science fiction]]
===Law===
(Court cases, the state of freedom of religion in various states and countries, etc.)
* [[Torcaso v. Watkins]] -- The Supreme Court case that extended "no religious test" to states.

==Science==
* [[Emotion]]
* [[Human]]
* [[Mind]]
* [[Nature]]
* [[Virtual particle]]s (I don't know much about them, but they have been mentioned as another possible way for the universe to come into existence without god.)
* [[Volcano]]es A recent episode of The 700 Club presented Seven Wonders Museum curator [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/194479_helensmusem09.html Lloyd Anderson], who claims Mount St. Helens is proof that the earth can change drastically in a short period of time. This needs to be refuted with some hard facts.

==Media==
===Books, articles, essays, other writings===
* ''[[50 Reasons People Give for Believing in a God]]'' by [[Guy P. Harrison]]
* ''[[The End of Faith]]'' by [[Sam Harris]]
* ''[[Skeptical Inquirer]]''
* ''[[Life--How Did it Get Here?]] By Evolution or By Creation?'', Watchtower society anti-evolution book.
* ''[[Atheist Books and Literature Listings]]'' Listing of published atheist literature by title and author

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* [[Point of Inquiry]]

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===Fictional, Biblical, scriptural===
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* [[Thomas]]

==Religions and religious topics==
* [[Bad arguments against the existence of God]] -- are there any common arguments for atheism that are illogical, invalid, or otherwise weak?
* [[Blasphemy]]
* [[Calvinism]] ([[Calvinist]] as redirect)
* [[Canon]]
* [[Church]]
* [[Crimen Sollicitationis]] (A document from the Catholic Church that set the global policy for the treatment of allegations of sex crimes)
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* [[Rapture]]
* [[Saint]]
* [[Sermon]]
* [[Trinity]] Explain [[trinitarianism]] and the heretical concepts surrounding it such as [[modulism]] (one god shows self in three ways) and [[tritheism]] (three seperate beings)
* [[Worship]]
* [[Zion]], [[Zionism]], [[Zionist]]
===Specific denominations, sects, cults===
* [[Bahá'í faith]]
* [[Church of Satan]]
* [[Jainism]]
* [[Orthodox Judaism]]
* [[Shia Islam]] (see [[Wikipedia:Shia Islam]] for various possible redirects)
* [[Shinto]] ([[Shintoism]] as redirect)
* [[Sunni Islam]] ([[Sunni]] as redirect)

===Religious texts===
* almost all of the individual books of the Bible (see [[Template:Books of the Bible]] for a listing)
* [[Dead Sea scrolls]]
* [[Torah]], [[Tanakh]], [[Talmud]]
===Bible stories, parables, etc.===
* [[Gods in the Old Testament]] — episodes 464, 466, and 483 of ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' could be good starting points

==Supernatural, paranormal, magic, myth==
* [[Astrology]]
* [[Paranormal]]
* [[Witchcraft]], [[witch]]
* [[Ghost]]

==Philosophy, logic, ethics==
* [[Common sense]] You know, people put a lot of emphasis on common sense, I think a page about examples where common sense lies to us would be nice.
* [[Premise]]
* [[Proof]]
* [[Suicide]]

==Politics, society, culture==
* [[Abortion]]
* [[Faith-based initiative]]s
* [[Science fiction]]
===Law===
(Court cases, the state of freedom of religion in various states and countries, etc.)
* [[Torcaso v. Watkins]] -- The Supreme Court case that extended "no religious test" to states.

==Science==
* [[Emotion]]
* [[Human]]
* [[Mind]]
* [[Nature]]
* [[Virtual particle]]s (I don't know much about them, but they have been mentioned as another possible way for the universe to come into existence without god.)
* [[Volcano]]es A recent episode of The 700 Club presented Seven Wonders Museum curator [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/194479_helensmusem09.html Lloyd Anderson], who claims Mount St. Helens is proof that the earth can change drastically in a short period of time. This needs to be refuted with some hard facts.

==Media==
===Books, articles, essays, other writings===
* ''[[50 Reasons People Give for Believing in a God]]'' by [[Guy P. Harrison]]
* ''[[The End of Faith]]'' by [[Sam Harris]]
* ''[[Skeptical Inquirer]]''
* ''[[Life--How Did it Get Here?]] By Evolution or By Creation?'', Watchtower society anti-evolution book.
* ''[[Atheist Books and Literature Listings]]'' Listing of published atheist literature by title and author

===Film, TV, video===

===Websites, blogs, podcasts===
* [[Eight Hour Lunch]]
* [[Secular Web]]
* [[Point of Inquiry]]

==General, miscellaneous, other==

==See also==
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Exorcism

2009-01-06T13:39:35Z

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{{stub}}
As defined by the catholic encyclopedia
Exorcism is (1) the act of driving out, or warding off, demons, or evil spirits, from persons, places, or things, which are believed to be possessed or infested by them, or are liable to become victims or instruments of their malice; (2) the means employed for this purpose, especially the solemn and authoritative adjuration of the demon, in the name of God, or any of the higher power in which he is subject

The word, which is not itself biblical, is derived from exorkizo, which is used in the Septuagint (Genesis 24:3 = cause to swear; III(I) Kings 22:16 = adjure), and in Matthew 26:63, by the high priest to Christ, "I adjure thee by the living God. . ."

the authority of all early writers who refer to the subject at all that in the first centuries not only the clergy, but lay Christians also were able by the power of Christ to deliver demoniacs or energumens, and their success was appealed to by the early Apologists as a strong argument for the Divinity of the Christian religion
sometimes in addition to words some symbolic action was employed, such as breathing (insufflatio), or laying of hands on the subject, or making the sign of cross. St. Justin speaks of demons flying from "the touch and breathing of Christians" (II Apol., 6)

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===Fictional, Biblical, scriptural===
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* [[Muhammed]]
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* [[Thomas]]

==Religions and religious topics==
* [[Bad arguments against the existence of God]] -- are there any common arguments for atheism that are illogical, invalid, or otherwise weak?
* [[Blasphemy]]
* [[Calvinism]] ([[Calvinist]] as redirect)
* [[Canon]]
* [[Church]]
* [[Crimen Sollicitationis]] (A document from the Catholic Church that set the global policy for the treatment of allegations of sex crimes)
* [[Cult]]
* [[Doctrine]]
* [[Exorcism]]
* [[Heresy]], [[heretic]], [[heretical]]
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* [[Pagan]], [[Pagans]], [[Paganism]]
* [[Pantheon]]
* [[Rapture]]
* [[Saint]]
* [[Sermon]]
* [[Trinity]] Explain [[trinitarianism]] and the heretical concepts surrounding it such as [[modulism]] (one god shows self in three ways) and [[tritheism]] (three seperate beings)
* [[Worship]]
* [[Zion]], [[Zionism]], [[Zionist]]
===Specific denominations, sects, cults===
* [[Bahá'í faith]]
* [[Church of Satan]]
* [[Jainism]]
* [[Orthodox Judaism]]
* [[Shia Islam]] (see [[Wikipedia:Shia Islam]] for various possible redirects)
* [[Shinto]] ([[Shintoism]] as redirect)
* [[Sunni Islam]] ([[Sunni]] as redirect)

===Religious texts===
* almost all of the individual books of the Bible (see [[Template:Books of the Bible]] for a listing)
* [[Dead Sea scrolls]]
* [[Torah]], [[Tanakh]], [[Talmud]]
===Bible stories, parables, etc.===
* [[Gods in the Old Testament]] — episodes 464, 466, and 483 of ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' could be good starting points

==Supernatural, paranormal, magic, myth==
* [[Astrology]]
* [[Paranormal]]
* [[Witchcraft]], [[witch]]
* [[Ghost]]

==Philosophy, logic, ethics==
* [[Common sense]] You know, people put a lot of emphasis on common sense, I think a page about examples where common sense lies to us would be nice.
* [[Premise]]
* [[Proof]]
* [[Suicide]]

==Politics, society, culture==
* [[Abortion]]
* [[Faith-based initiative]]s
* [[Science fiction]]
===Law===
(Court cases, the state of freedom of religion in various states and countries, etc.)
* [[Torcaso v. Watkins]] -- The Supreme Court case that extended "no religious test" to states.

==Science==
* [[Emotion]]
* [[Human]]
* [[Mind]]
* [[Nature]]
* [[Virtual particle]]s (I don't know much about them, but they have been mentioned as another possible way for the universe to come into existence without god.)
* [[Volcano]]es A recent episode of The 700 Club presented Seven Wonders Museum curator [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/194479_helensmusem09.html Lloyd Anderson], who claims Mount St. Helens is proof that the earth can change drastically in a short period of time. This needs to be refuted with some hard facts.

==Media==
===Books, articles, essays, other writings===
* ''[[50 Reasons People Give for Believing in a God]]'' by [[Guy P. Harrison]]
* ''[[The End of Faith]]'' by [[Sam Harris]]
* ''[[Skeptical Inquirer]]''
* ''[[Life--How Did it Get Here?]] By Evolution or By Creation?'', Watchtower society anti-evolution book.
* ''[[Atheist Books and Literature Listings]]'' Listing of published atheist literature by title and author

===Film, TV, video===

===Websites, blogs, podcasts===
* [[Eight Hour Lunch]]
* [[Secular Web]]
* [[Point of Inquiry]]

==General, miscellaneous, other==

==See also==
* [[:Category:Stubs|Stub articles]] which ought to be expanded.
* [[Special:Uncategorizedpages|Uncategorized pages]] which ought to be added to one or more [[:Category:Browse_categories|categories]].
* Arguments from ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' and ''[[The Non-Prophets]]''. [[User:Sans Deity|Matt Dillahunty]] has asked that if you hear a good argument on one of the [[ACA]]'s shows, please add it here if it isn't here already.

[[Category:Content development|Requested pages]]

Iron Chariots Wiki talk:Requested pages

2009-01-06T13:37:33Z

Enshoku: Eight hour lunch podcast

Note: I removed the empty categories (arguments for/against God). If you think of any particular examples, we can add them back in.

I also removed the line that said
*"[[But that's the old bible]] (Basically the position that the stupid laws in the old testament are not applicable, because the new testament came to institute a new way. So now all the stupid laws in the new one are the way to go.)"

Obviously that's not going to be the name of the actual article, and if we do get something written then maybe it could just go under [[Old testament]] or [[Biblical laws]].

[[User:Kazim|Kazim]] 14:04, 21 August 2006 (MST)

== Cite extension ==

Would it be possible to install the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cite/Cite.php Cite.php] MediaWiki extension? This would make it easier to cite sources inline using <tt><ref></tt> tags.
--[[User:Arensb|Arensb]] 13:07, 25 February 2007 (CST)

== Why science fiction? ==

Why is science fiction on the list of requested pages? Does it have a particular connection to atheism or (counter)apologetics? It's linked to from a few pages, but perhaps those should be redirected to Wikipedia --[[User:Arensb|Arensb]] 20:53, 11 November 2007 (CST)

== Appeal to education? ==

Sorry if this isn't the place, but I wasn't sure where else to ask. Does anyone know of a pre-existing name for a fallacy something along the lines of appeal to education? What I mean is that a typical route for arguments against criticism of the Bible is simply, "Oh, you don't understand it. It takes YEARS OF STUDY to properly understand it." --[[User:Zurahn|Zurahn]] 13:35, 6 September 2008 (CDT)
: Perhaps something about [[wiktionary:esoteric|esoteric]] knowledge? Not sure. - [[User:Dcljr|dcljr]] 17:54, 9 September 2008 (CDT)
:: I'd call it "Appeal to Indoctrination" [[User:Rivalarrival|Rivalarrival]]
::: I'd call it "bullshit", personally. [[User:DarkSeraph|DarkSeraph]]
:::: '''Argumentum ad verecundiam''' with yourself as the authority. --[[User:Jaban|Jaban]] 13:12, 29 October 2008 (CDT)

== Collect advice to struggling atheists? ==

Should there be a page or category giving advice on such topics as how to deal with one's religious parents, how to come out as an atheist, and so on?
This has come up any number of times on [[The Atheist Experience]], as well as other fora.
On one hand, it's obviously of great interest to a number of people. On the other hand, this wiki may not be the best place to provide advice. --[[User:Arensb|Arensb]] 19:52, 29 December 2008 (CST)

: The wiki seems dedicated to providing arguments/counterarguments. I would think that pages dealing with the application of those arguments would be relevant... [[User:Rivalarrival|Rival]] 21:10, 30 December 2008 (CST)

== Eight hour lunch podcast ==

I don't think the the eight hour lunch podcast really needs its own topic, as the podcast only ran 20 or so episodes and hasn't been active for over a year. If anyone else actually thinks the article is necessary I'd be happy to make it, but it seems a bit insignificant for such a short lived podcast.
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 07:37, 6 January 2009 (CST)

Iron Chariots Wiki:Requested pages

2009-01-06T13:33:22Z

Enshoku: /* Politics, society, culture */

Got a page that you would love to see an article about, but you don't have the time or knowledge to write it yourself? Put a request here and somebody may do your work for you!

For those who are editing, don't forget to check the [[Special:Wantedpages|Wanted Pages]] list.

If any of the requests below correspond to existing articles, but those articles are still very short, please remove the entry here and tag the article with an appropriate [[Project:stub template|stub template]]. Stub articles in need of expansion can be found in the [[:Category:Stubs|Stubs]] category.

==People==
: ''See also:'' [[Iron Chariots Wiki:Requested pages/Lists of atheists]]
===Living===
* [[Josh McDowell]]
* [[Roy Moore]]
* [[Ralph Reed]]
* [[James Rutz]] ([[Jim Rutz]] as redirect)
===Dead/historical===
* [[Carl Sagan]]
* [[Mark Twain]]
===Fictional, Biblical, scriptural===
* [[Abraham]]
* [[Muhammed]]
* [[Paul]]
* [[Shiva]]
* [[Thomas]]
* [[Vishnu]]

==Religions and religious topics==
* [[Bad arguments against the existence of God]] -- are there any common arguments for atheism that are illogical, invalid, or otherwise weak?
* [[Blasphemy]]
* [[Calvinism]] ([[Calvinist]] as redirect)
* [[Canon]]
* [[Church]]
* [[Crimen Sollicitationis]] (A document from the Catholic Church that set the global policy for the treatment of allegations of sex crimes)
* [[Cult]]
* [[Doctrine]]
* [[Exorcism]]
* [[Heresy]], [[heretic]], [[heretical]]
* [[Israel]], [[Israelite]], [[Israelites]]
* [[Pagan]], [[Pagans]], [[Paganism]]
* [[Pantheon]]
* [[Rapture]]
* [[Saint]]
* [[Sermon]]
* [[Trinity]] Explain [[trinitarianism]] and the heretical concepts surrounding it such as [[modulism]] (one god shows self in three ways) and [[tritheism]] (three seperate beings)
* [[Worship]]
* [[Zion]], [[Zionism]], [[Zionist]]
===Specific denominations, sects, cults===
* [[Bahá'í faith]]
* [[Church of Satan]]
* [[Jainism]]
* [[Orthodox Judaism]]
* [[Shia Islam]] (see [[Wikipedia:Shia Islam]] for various possible redirects)
* [[Shinto]] ([[Shintoism]] as redirect)
* [[Sunni Islam]] ([[Sunni]] as redirect)

===Religious texts===
* almost all of the individual books of the Bible (see [[Template:Books of the Bible]] for a listing)
* [[Dead Sea scrolls]]
* [[Torah]], [[Tanakh]], [[Talmud]]
===Bible stories, parables, etc.===
* [[Gods in the Old Testament]] — episodes 464, 466, and 483 of ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' could be good starting points

==Supernatural, paranormal, magic, myth==
* [[Astrology]]
* [[Paranormal]]
* [[Witchcraft]], [[witch]]
* [[Ghost]]

==Philosophy, logic, ethics==
* [[Common sense]] You know, people put a lot of emphasis on common sense, I think a page about examples where common sense lies to us would be nice.
* [[Premise]]
* [[Proof]]
* [[Suicide]]

==Politics, society, culture==
* [[Abortion]]
* [[Faith-based initiative]]s
* [[Science fiction]]
===Law===
(Court cases, the state of freedom of religion in various states and countries, etc.)
* [[Torcaso v. Watkins]] -- The Supreme Court case that extended "no religious test" to states.

==Science==
* [[Emotion]]
* [[Human]]
* [[Mind]]
* [[Nature]]
* [[Virtual particle]]s (I don't know much about them, but they have been mentioned as another possible way for the universe to come into existence without god.)
* [[Volcano]]es A recent episode of The 700 Club presented Seven Wonders Museum curator [http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/194479_helensmusem09.html Lloyd Anderson], who claims Mount St. Helens is proof that the earth can change drastically in a short period of time. This needs to be refuted with some hard facts.

==Media==
===Books, articles, essays, other writings===
* ''[[50 Reasons People Give for Believing in a God]]'' by [[Guy P. Harrison]]
* ''[[The End of Faith]]'' by [[Sam Harris]]
* ''[[Skeptical Inquirer]]''
* ''[[Life--How Did it Get Here?]] By Evolution or By Creation?'', Watchtower society anti-evolution book.
* ''[[Atheist Books and Literature Listings]]'' Listing of published atheist literature by title and author

===Film, TV, video===

===Websites, blogs, podcasts===
* [[Eight Hour Lunch]]
* [[Secular Web]]
* [[Point of Inquiry]]

==General, miscellaneous, other==

==See also==
* [[:Category:Stubs|Stub articles]] which ought to be expanded.
* [[Special:Uncategorizedpages|Uncategorized pages]] which ought to be added to one or more [[:Category:Browse_categories|categories]].
* Arguments from ''[[The Atheist Experience]]'' and ''[[The Non-Prophets]]''. [[User:Sans Deity|Matt Dillahunty]] has asked that if you hear a good argument on one of the [[ACA]]'s shows, please add it here if it isn't here already.

[[Category:Content development|Requested pages]]

User:Enshoku

2009-01-06T13:31:51Z

Enshoku:

== Editing history: ==

Edited example on [[No_true_Scotsman_fallacy|no true Scotsman]] page, it is now the original 1975 example.

*:'''Scotsman A:''' "You know, laddie, no Scotsman puts sugar in his porridge."
*:'''Scotsman B:''' "Is that so? I seem to recall my cousin Angus puts sugar in his porridge"
*:'''Scotsman A:''' "Aye... but no '''true''' Scotsman puts sugar in his porridge."

[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 21:18, 29 April 2008 (CDT)
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Added example on [[Appeal_to_emotion]] page:

*"[[Hitler]] was an [[evil]] [[atheist]], you don't want to be a nazi do you?"

*The first objection to the statement is whether or not Hitler was an atheist, which tends to be an argument from ignorance, due to the fact that Hitler was a devout [[catholic]]. The second issue with the statement is that it makes a link between atheism and Nazism via an [[Enthymeme|enthymeme]].
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 21:41, 29 April 2008 (CDT)
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Added specifics on [[argument_from_personal_experience]] article.

*This argument is particularly common among certain branches of Christianity where things like possession and levitating have been reported.
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 12:40, 5 May 2008 (CDT)
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created dogma article

=Dogma Overview=

Dogma(s) are a certain religious set of beliefs, whether they are written by divine doctrine or not. In rare cases dogma may also apply to ideology or philosophy as well. The phrase dogmatic is often used to describe those who oppose rational argument, and hold a very fundamental set of beliefs based on their religion.

==Central Dogma per Religion==

*Islam- Qu'ran
*Judaism- Torah
*Christianity- Bible
*Wicca- The wiccan rede and rule of three
*Hinduism- no central dogma
*Shintoism- no central dogma
*Pastafarism- The 8 "I'd really rather you didn'ts".
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 22:57, 5 May 2008 (CDT)
---------------------------

Peter H. Gilmore is the administrator of the [[church_of_satan|church of satan]], and has been on shows such as The History Channel, The Sci-Fi Channel, and [[point_of_inquiry|Point of Inquiry]], which refers to him as the high priest of the church of [[satan]]. He is a [[lavey|LaVeyian]] satanist, thus he is an atheist as well. He attempts to popularize [[atheism]], and has pointed out that secular humanism is much like satanism, when they are actually in fact almost antithesis's of one another.

==Writings==
Gilmore writes(and has written since 1989) a journal called "the black flame". In 2005 he also wrote an introduction the '''the satanic bible''', which was intended for the teenage crowd. In 2005 his essay on satanism was also published in the Encyclopedia of Religion and Nature, under LaVeyian/non theistic satanism.

==external links==
*[http://www.pointofinquiry.org/peter_h_gilmore_science_and_satanism/ point of inquiry's article about him]
*[http://enshoku.blogspot.com/2008/04/satanism-what-it-is-and-what-it-isnt.html a blog post on LaVeyian satanism]
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 07:40, 6 May 2008 (CDT)

==blogging==
A blog is a website which is maintained by one or more persons that acts much like a public journal or message board, where the owner or owners of the blog create posts on whatever topics they please and use a commentary format of writing. The word blog its self is a contraction of the the words web and log. Blog can also be used in a verbal sense, wherein the meaning is changed to mean altering the the blog in some way, usually by adding posts.

[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 07:25, 6 January 2009 (CST)

==speaking in tongues==
#REDIRECT [[glossolalia]]
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 07:31, 6 January 2009 (CST)

Speaking in Tongues

2009-01-06T13:30:02Z

Enshoku:

#REDIRECT [[glossolalia]]

User:Enshoku

2009-01-06T13:25:31Z

Enshoku: /* blogging */

User:Enshoku

2009-01-06T13:25:08Z

Enshoku:

== Editing history: ==

Edited example on [[No_true_Scotsman_fallacy|no true Scotsman]] page, it is now the original 1975 example.

*:'''Scotsman A:''' "You know, laddie, no Scotsman puts sugar in his porridge."
*:'''Scotsman B:''' "Is that so? I seem to recall my cousin Angus puts sugar in his porridge"
*:'''Scotsman A:''' "Aye... but no '''true''' Scotsman puts sugar in his porridge."

[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 21:18, 29 April 2008 (CDT)
---------------------
Added example on [[Appeal_to_emotion]] page:

*"[[Hitler]] was an [[evil]] [[atheist]], you don't want to be a nazi do you?"

*The first objection to the statement is whether or not Hitler was an atheist, which tends to be an argument from ignorance, due to the fact that Hitler was a devout [[catholic]]. The second issue with the statement is that it makes a link between atheism and Nazism via an [[Enthymeme|enthymeme]].
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 21:41, 29 April 2008 (CDT)
---------------------
Added specifics on [[argument_from_personal_experience]] article.

*This argument is particularly common among certain branches of Christianity where things like possession and levitating have been reported.
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 12:40, 5 May 2008 (CDT)
---------------------
created dogma article

=Dogma Overview=

Dogma(s) are a certain religious set of beliefs, whether they are written by divine doctrine or not. In rare cases dogma may also apply to ideology or philosophy as well. The phrase dogmatic is often used to describe those who oppose rational argument, and hold a very fundamental set of beliefs based on their religion.

==Central Dogma per Religion==

*Islam- Qu'ran
*Judaism- Torah
*Christianity- Bible
*Wicca- The wiccan rede and rule of three
*Hinduism- no central dogma
*Shintoism- no central dogma
*Pastafarism- The 8 "I'd really rather you didn'ts".
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 22:57, 5 May 2008 (CDT)
---------------------------

Peter H. Gilmore is the administrator of the [[church_of_satan|church of satan]], and has been on shows such as The History Channel, The Sci-Fi Channel, and [[point_of_inquiry|Point of Inquiry]], which refers to him as the high priest of the church of [[satan]]. He is a [[lavey|LaVeyian]] satanist, thus he is an atheist as well. He attempts to popularize [[atheism]], and has pointed out that secular humanism is much like satanism, when they are actually in fact almost antithesis's of one another.

==Writings==
Gilmore writes(and has written since 1989) a journal called "the black flame". In 2005 he also wrote an introduction the '''the satanic bible''', which was intended for the teenage crowd. In 2005 his essay on satanism was also published in the Encyclopedia of Religion and Nature, under LaVeyian/non theistic satanism.

==external links==
*[http://www.pointofinquiry.org/peter_h_gilmore_science_and_satanism/ point of inquiry's article about him]
*[http://enshoku.blogspot.com/2008/04/satanism-what-it-is-and-what-it-isnt.html a blog post on LaVeyian satanism]
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 07:40, 6 May 2008 (CDT)

==blogging==
A blog is a website which is maintained by one or more persons that acts much like a public journal or message board, where the owner or owners of the blog create posts on whatever topics they please and use a commentary format of writing. The word blog its self is a contraction of the the words web and log. Blog can also be used in a verbal sense, wherein the meaning is changed to mean altering the the blog in some way, usually by adding posts.
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 07:25, 6 January 2009 (CST)

Dualism

2008-05-14T06:48:51Z

Enshoku:

{{Wikipedia|Dualism (philosophy of mind)}}
'''Dualism''' or '''Cartesian Dualism''' is the philosophical position that there are two kinds of matter: ordinary matter, and spirit. Rocks, light, clouds, etc. are composed of ordinary matter, whereas [[mind]]s and [[soul]]s are composed of a fundamentally different type of matter. Dualism stands in contrast to [[monism]] and [[philosophical materialism]].

==Counterarguments==

Perhaps the major counterargument to dualism is the fact that the existence of a soul, or of soul matter, has never been demonstrated. Much experimental work has been done in psychology, but none of it has shown that there needs to be a separate type of matter to explain how minds work. As far as science can tell at present, the mind is simply the result of the operation of a brain made of ordinary matter.

If mind matter exists, it must interface with the body somehow: signals from the eyes (which are made of ordinary matter) must pass to the mind, which must then decide what to do next and somehow signal the muscles to move appropriately. It should be possible to discover where and how this mind-body interface works, for instance by studying people who have sustained mental problems as a result of physical injury or stroke.

[[Evolution]] also argues against the existence of a mind outside the body: the brain is an expensive organ, requiring a lot of resources, such as oxygen, to function properly. If the seat of thought is not in the brain, but in an external mind in a separate plane, then there is no need for the human brain to be as large as it is. [[Natural selection]] should have favored those individuals with smaller brains as being better able to keep their brains functioning in times of scarcity.

The philosopher [[Daniel Dennett]] presents a case against Cartesian dualism in his book, ''Consciousness Explained''.

==Dark matter==

Current models of [[cosmology]] include the notions of "dark matter" and "dark energy", which are different from ordinary matter and energy. These are different from "soul matter", since they were postulated to explain certain large-scale features of the universe, rather than to explain how minds work.

==See also==
* [[Methodological naturalism]]

[[Category:Philosophical issues]]

Dualism

2008-05-14T05:22:15Z

Enshoku:

User:Enshoku

2008-05-06T12:40:15Z

Enshoku:

== Editing history: ==

Edited example on [[No_true_Scotsman_fallacy|no true Scotsman]] page, it is now the original 1975 example.

*:'''Scotsman A:''' "You know, laddie, no Scotsman puts sugar in his porridge."
*:'''Scotsman B:''' "Is that so? I seem to recall my cousin Angus puts sugar in his porridge"
*:'''Scotsman A:''' "Aye... but no '''true''' Scotsman puts sugar in his porridge."

[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 21:18, 29 April 2008 (CDT)
---------------------
Added example on [[Appeal_to_emotion]] page:

*"[[Hitler]] was an [[evil]] [[atheist]], you don't want to be a nazi do you?"

*The first objection to the statement is whether or not Hitler was an atheist, which tends to be an argument from ignorance, due to the fact that Hitler was a devout [[catholic]]. The second issue with the statement is that it makes a link between atheism and Nazism via an [[Enthymeme|enthymeme]].
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 21:41, 29 April 2008 (CDT)
---------------------
Added specifics on [[argument_from_personal_experience]] article.

*This argument is particularly common among certain branches of Christianity where things like possession and levitating have been reported.
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 12:40, 5 May 2008 (CDT)
---------------------
created dogma article

=Dogma Overview=

Dogma(s) are a certain religious set of beliefs, whether they are written by divine doctrine or not. In rare cases dogma may also apply to ideology or philosophy as well. The phrase dogmatic is often used to describe those who oppose rational argument, and hold a very fundamental set of beliefs based on their religion.

==Central Dogma per Religion==

*Islam- Qu'ran
*Judaism- Torah
*Christianity- Bible
*Wicca- The wiccan rede and rule of three
*Hinduism- no central dogma
*Shintoism- no central dogma
*Pastafarism- The 8 "I'd really rather you didn'ts".
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 22:57, 5 May 2008 (CDT)
---------------------------
created my sexiest article yet, though mr. gilmore and sexy should never be put in the same sentence...ever.

Peter H. Gilmore is the administrator of the [[church_of_satan|church of satan]], and has been on shows such as The History Channel, The Sci-Fi Channel, and [[point_of_inquiry|Point of Inquiry]], which refers to him as the high priest of the church of [[satan]]. He is a [[lavey|LaVeyian]] satanist, thus he is an atheist as well. He attempts to popularize [[atheism]], and has pointed out that secular humanism is much like satanism, when they are actually in fact almost antithesis's of one another.

==Writings==
Gilmore writes(and has written since 1989) a journal called "the black flame". In 2005 he also wrote an introduction the '''the satanic bible''', which was intended for the teenage crowd. In 2005 his essay on satanism was also published in the Encyclopedia of Religion and Nature, under LaVeyian/non theistic satanism.

==external links==
*[http://www.pointofinquiry.org/peter_h_gilmore_science_and_satanism/ point of inquiry's article about him]
*[http://enshoku.blogspot.com/2008/04/satanism-what-it-is-and-what-it-isnt.html a blog post on LaVeyian satanism]
[[User:Enshoku|Enshoku]] 07:40, 6 May 2008 (CDT)